The 'fermi Line' (the 130 GEv gamma ray signal)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the 130 GeV gamma-ray signal detected by the Fermi telescope, with a focus on its potential implications for dark matter and supersymmetry (SUSY). Participants explore the significance of this signal, its origins, and the theoretical frameworks that might explain it, including dark matter particle annihilation and SUSY models.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the 130 GeV gamma-ray emission could be linked to dark matter, specifically through the annihilation of dark matter and anti-dark matter particles.
  • Others question whether the 130 GeV value is predicted or merely a result of a lack of alternative explanations, raising the possibility that it could also indicate supersymmetry (SUSY).
  • One participant notes that in SUSY models, the supersymmetric particles should decay to the lightest supersymmetric particle (LSP), which is considered a dark matter candidate.
  • Another participant emphasizes that predicting a specific gamma-ray value requires knowledge of the mass and annihilation mechanisms of dark matter, which remain unknown.
  • There is uncertainty expressed about whether the signal provides enough information to distinguish between SUSY and other models of dark matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the 130 GeV signal, with multiple competing views regarding its implications for dark matter and SUSY remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in predicting specific values related to dark matter without knowing the underlying particle properties and annihilation mechanisms. There is also an acknowledgment of the uncertainty surrounding the ability to differentiate between SUSY and other theoretical models based on the signal.

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http://arxiv.org/abs/1206.1616

Strong Evidence for Gamma-ray Line Emission from the Inner Galaxy - Meng Su, Douglas P. Finkbeiner

Analysis of data from the Fermi telescope shows "monochromatic" gamma ray emission at 130 GeV from the centre of the galaxy.

This paper is generating a lot of talk recently. What is the significance?
 
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d3mm said:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1206.1616

Strong Evidence for Gamma-ray Line Emission from the Inner Galaxy - Meng Su, Douglas P. Finkbeiner

Analysis of data from the Fermi telescope shows "monochromatic" gamma ray emission at 130 GeV from the centre of the galaxy.

This paper is generating a lot of talk recently. What is the significance?

Some people think it may be produced by Dark Matter - Anti Dark Matter particle annihilation. If so it would be considered a direct detection of dark matter - that's why people are excited.
 
Is this 130 GeV value predicted, or is it a case of "there is nothing else (it could be), so it must be"

edit: Couldn't this be a signal for SUSY as well as dark matter? Those would also be new particles.
 
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d3mm said:
edit: Couldn't this be a signal for SUSY as well as dark matter? Those would also be new particles.

Yes but the idea is that in SUSY whatever supersymmetric particles you have should decay down to the LSP, which is the dark matter candidate. This is the only thing you expect to still be around since it can't decay, so it would be these particles annihilating.
 
d3mm said:
Is this 130 GeV value predicted, or is it a case of "there is nothing else (it could be), so it must be"
No, it's not possible to predict a specific value without knowing the mass and annihilation mechanisms, neither of which we can know until we know the particle that makes up dark matter.

That said, if dark matter frequently annihilates into a pair of photons, then we would expect to see a sharp peak in gamma ray output right at the mass of the dark matter particle.

d3mm said:
edit: Couldn't this be a signal for SUSY as well as dark matter? Those would also be new particles.
I'm not sure there would be enough information in the signal to determine whether it's SUSY or some other model.
 

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