The greatest poets of Rock & Roll

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the lyrical quality of Rock & Roll music, with participants sharing their opinions on various artists they consider to be exceptional lyricists, akin to Bob Dylan. The conversation explores a range of artists from different eras and genres, highlighting their contributions to songwriting and the emotional or thematic depth of their lyrics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that while Rock & Roll has great music, it often lacks in lyrical depth, seeking examples of artists who defy this trend, such as Bob Dylan.
  • Paul Simon is highlighted for his integration of diverse musical influences, particularly in the "Graceland" album.
  • Bruce Springsteen is mentioned as a prominent voice of the people in North America, with references to Arlo Guthrie's relevance in earlier times.
  • Don Henley is noted for his introspective lyrics, with specific lines quoted to illustrate his themes of understanding and forgiveness.
  • Leonard Cohen and Billy Joel are also recognized for their impactful lyrics, with specific songs cited as examples of their poetic qualities.
  • Bernie Taupin's collaboration with Elton John is discussed, with some participants emphasizing his crucial role in crafting memorable lyrics.
  • Other artists mentioned include the Grateful Dead, the Eagles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and more, each noted for their unique lyrical contributions.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the classification of certain artists within the Rock & Roll genre, such as Jackson Browne and Warren Zevon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions regarding which artists are the greatest lyricists in Rock & Roll, with no clear consensus reached. Multiple competing views remain on the subject, reflecting differing tastes and interpretations of what constitutes poetic lyrics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge limitations in their knowledge of international music, which may affect their contributions to the discussion. Additionally, the blending of genres complicates the classification of certain artists as purely Rock & Roll.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in music analysis, lyrical interpretation, or the evolution of songwriting in Rock & Roll may find this discussion insightful.

  • #31
Danger said:
Lisa, I hardly ever know the lyrics to songs, due to a hearing problem, but I have an idea about the "diamonds in the soles of her shoes" line from Simon.
I don't know the song or the album, but when I read the post I guessed it was a hint at how uber wealthy "she" is.

Poor people have no diamonds.

Rich people display their diamonds where everyone can see the (arms, neck, etc.) and they treat them with care.

You have to be mind numbingly rich to buy shoes that have diamonds in the soles, where no one sees them, and they get treated like trash.
 
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  • #32
Danger said:
The opening line is "Starry starry night", but the actual title is "Vincent". It's a tribute to van Gogh.

Yes, habit.
 
  • #33
Marc Cohn is a very talented lyricist, and I love his music.
 
  • #34
A one-hit-wonder to me! But that's probably saying more about me than Mr Cohn.
 
  • #35
His first two CDs are loaded with keepers. Walking in Memphis got lots of airplay as did Silver Thunderbird. Commercial radio never got much deeper than those two cuts, so many people are not familiar with his best work.
 

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