The Hardest Logic/puzzle Question Of All Time!

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lawtonfogle said:
at least you figurethe god of truth
Reread the first post - you asked three your done, they will all answer either uga or booga and you don't know much.
The answer is posted in another thread - you can do a search.
 
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mmmkay, i'm still thinking about this puzzle, and as I think about it I come across some questions of my own: how can these three gods appear as identical twins? would they not appear as triplets? and secondly, if they speak a language that I don't understand, do they understand my language? If they do understand my language why don't they just answer in "yes" and "no" ? And if they don't understand my language then it doesn't matter what questions I ask them, does it?

Okay, i'm just stalling really. (I just make up BS to divert from the fact that i'm really not that smart).

I'll keep thinkin about it.
 
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RandallB said:
Reread the first post - you asked three your done, they will all answer either uga or booga and you don't know much.
The answer is posted in another thread - you can do a search.

but since the god of truth does not give a reply, it does not matter

gravenewworld said:
3. In the end you can only have a total of 3 responses.

this is about the fifth post. It does not say 3 questions but 3 responses. One of the gods (the god of truth) cannot answer because either way it will be a lie.
 
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wikkidwife said:
mmmkay, i'm still thinking about this puzzle, and as I think about it I come across some questions of my own: how can these three gods appear as identical twins? would they not appear as triplets? and secondly, if they speak a language that I don't understand, do they understand my language? If they do understand my language why don't they just answer in "yes" and "no" ? And if they don't understand my language then it doesn't matter what questions I ask them, does it?

Okay, i'm just stalling really. (I just make up BS to divert from the fact that i'm really not that smart).

I'll keep thinkin about it.

they are all knowing, so they do, but they will only speak to you in the language of their kind
 
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I got it

Rember this part

gravenewworld said:
The gods also speak a language that you do not understand, except that you know that uga and booga are the responses yes and no (you however do not know which word is yes and which is no).

And this

gravenewworld said:
3. In the end you can only have a total of 3 responses.

The way to figure out which god is which is to ask question that certain god(s) can't answer.
Example:

If you ask the god of truth 'Will the next word you say be 'no'?'
The god of truth can't answer while the others can. If he says yes, he is saying 'The next word I say will be no.', but it is instead no, and the other way around if he answers no. So not even knowing if his answer is yes or no is important, because what ever he answers it will be a lie, and since he can't lie, then he can't answer.

Well we now have the god of truth figured out. And if you ask two of the gods the question and they answer, then you know the last one is the god of truth. In a worst case scenairo, you will have one question left to ask, all that you need to find out which one of the gods are which one.

Now you ask one of the remaining gods the question 'Will the next word you say be yes?'. If it is the god of lies, he can't answer. If he answers yes then he is saying 'The next word I say will be no.' because he lies when he say yes. The same logic is applied if he answers no. So the god of lies can't answer without telling the truth, so he will not answer. If the god does answer it is the god of chaos.

Now you know who two of the gods are, then the last one is the god of chaos, or lies, according if he answered the last question or not. In the best case scenairo, you have one question to ask.

Now use it to try to find out what uga and booga mean. :approve:
 
  • #31
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i think you guys are missing something

you can't find out the god of truth by asking "will the next word you say mean 'no'?"

it's true that the god of lies will always be able to answer this and the god of truth will never be able to answer this, but the god of chaos will sometimes be able to answer the question and sometimes not. so you can narrow down the god of lies to two gods, and the same goes for the god of truth... but you can't differentiate between any one god and the god of chaos by asking "will the next word you say mean no(/yes)'?"
 
  • #32
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lawtonfogle said:
The way to figure out which god is which is to ask question that certain god(s) can't answer.
Except this does not work - read post #10 where it was stated quite clearly :

"each god has to answer your question, and they will only answer yes or no."

In other words, interpreting this literally, no god has the possibility "not to answer"
MF

:smile:
 
  • #33
JamesU
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Great question-IT'S SOO HARD!!!!! :grumpy:
 
  • #34
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If anyone wants the solution let me know i will PM you it. I posted the answer a while ago, but it looks like you can't go that far back in the threads.
 
  • #35
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wait nm ignore what i just said
 
  • #36
Can you Pm it to me , please.
 
  • #37
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Zygotic Embryo said:
Can you Pm it to me , please.
just google it
 
  • #38
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Ask the first god:
Does uga mean yes if, you are true if the second god is the god of chaos?
If you get the answer uga, the third god is either the god of truth or lies.
If you get the answer booga, the second god is either the god of truth or lies.
Ask the newly discovered god of truth or lies:
Does uga mean yes if 2+2=4?
The god of truth will answer uga and the god of lies will answer booga.
Ask the same god:
Does uga mean yes if the first god is the god of chaos?
You should then know which god is which.
 
  • #39
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My solution;: god or gods don't exist. I don't beleiv ein them.
 
  • #40
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How about something like this:

Ask #1 "If uga = yes, then do those two [#2 and #3] always answer uga?"
If the answer is 'uga', then he's lying, because if uga really means yes, and #1 is the god of truth, then he will answer 'booga'. If 'uga'; means no, then the god of truth will still answer 'booga' because 'uga' does not mean yes. So if they answer 'booga' then they are telling the truth. That way you can make sure (depending on their answer) that they are for sure not the god of truth or for sure not the god of lying.

Ask #2 "Do the other two [#1 and #3] sometimes agree?"
The answer should be affirmative (whichever word that happens to be), if #2 is the god of truth, or no if it's the god of lying, unless #2 is the god who sometimes lies and sometimes tells the truth. If that's the case then you'll need the last question to clarify that.

Ask #3 "If uga = yes, then does that one [#1] always answer uga when the correct answer is uga?"
The answer again should be 'booga' if they are telling the truth, and 'uga' if they are lying. This time, however, if the answer is 'uga', then you know that this god is lying, and depending on the other answers you can find out which god is which:

A) - 'uga' - (lying god or chaos god)
B) - 'uga' - (lying god or chaos god because uga must mean yes in this case
C) - 'uga' - (truth god because the lying god won't answer correctly, and the chaos god won't always answer correctly)
#1=Liar #2=Chaos #3=Truth

A) - 'uga' - (lying god or chaos god)
B) - 'booga' - (chaos god or truth god)
C) - 'uga' - (chaos god or truth god), this set of answers only allows #1 to be the lying god, and #3 to be the truth god, thus #2 is the chaos god.
#1=Liar #2=Chaos #3=Truth

A) - 'booga' - (truth god or chaos god)
B) - 'booga' - (lying god or chaos god)
C) - 'uga' - (chaos god or lying god). This one is undetermined; but will most likely be:
#1=Truth #2=Lying #3=Chaos

A) - 'booga' - (truth god or chaos god)
B) - 'uga' - (chaos god or truth god)
C) - 'booga' - (lying god or chaos god). Again undetermined; but will most likely be:
#1=Truth #2=Chaos #3=Lying

Really no other options without switching them around, and that's pointless. Am I even close at all? If not, then PM me with the answer.
 
  • #41
I can tell you guys who is GOD 1, GOD 2 and GOD 3 in just 2 questions..

1st QUESTION...
ARE YOU GUYS SIBLINGS??

posible answers:

POSIBLE ANSWER #1 for the 1st QUESTION
GOD 1 = NO
GOD 2 = NO
GOD 3 = YES

if you've got ANSWER #1: then,
GOD 3: is the GOD of TRUTH

QUESTION #2
ask GOD 3: is GOD 1 the GOD of LIES??

if GOD 3 answered "YES" then
GOD 1 is the GOD of LIES
GOD 2 is the GOD of CHAOS
GOD 3 is the GOD of TRUTH

else if GOD 3 answered "NO"
GOD 1 is the GOD of CHAOS
GOD 2 is the GOD of LIES
GOD 3 is the GOD of TRUTH

POSIBLE ANSWER #2 for the 1st QUESTION
GOD 1 = NO
GOD 2 = YES
GOD 3 = YES

if you've got this answer
GOD 1 is the GOD of LIES

ask GOD 1: GOD 2 is the GOD of TRUTH right?
(HE will surely LIE)

if GOD 1 answered YES then
GOD 1 is the God of LIES
GOD 2 is the GOD of CHaos
God 3 is the GOD of Truth

else if god 1 answered NO
GOD 1 is the God of LIES
GOD 2 is the GOD of Truth
GOd 3 is the GOD of CHAOS

^_^ is my explanation CLEAR??
 
  • #42
THE REAL HINT THERE is The "FACT" that they are TWINS..
 
  • #43
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I can tell you guys who is GOD 1, GOD 2 and GOD 3 in just 2 questions..

You did it in 4 questions, AND you still don't know whether "uga" is yes or "booga" is "yes".

DaveE
 
  • #44
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Ask the first god:
Does uga mean yes if, you are true if the second god is the god of chaos?
If you get the answer uga, the third god is either the god of truth or lies.

If you get the answer booga, the second god is either the god of truth or lies.
Ask the newly discovered god of truth or lies:
Does uga mean yes if 2+2=4?
The god of truth will answer uga and the god of lies will answer booga.
Ask the same god:
Does uga mean yes if the first god is the god of chaos?
You should then know which god is which.

It doesn't work.

Suppose uga=yes, first god=truth, second god=lies, third god=chaos.

Then, the first answer will be "uga" (because the consequent "uga=yes" is true, independently of the antecendent "you are true if the second god is the god of chaos").

So, the conclusion "the third god is truth or lies" will be wrong, as everything else.
 
  • #45
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Choose the first god, and tell him:

"Let's call the second god 'A', and the third one 'B'.
Consider the god of truth belongs to the group UGA, and the god of chaos and the god of lies belong to the group BOOGA.
What would you say if I asked you which group do you belong to?"


If he says UGA, he is the truth teller, otherwise he is the god of chaos or lies.
Suppose he says BOOGA (similar reasoning if the answer is UGA).
Then, ask him:

"What would you say if I asked you which group does 'A' belongs to?"

If he says UGA, 'A' is the truth teller, otherwise 'A' is the god of chaos or lies.
Suppose he says UGA. Then, 'A' is the god of truth.
Finally, ask him:

"Now, consider the god of chaos belongs to the group UGA, and the god of lies belongs to the group BOOGA.
What would you say if I asked you which group do you belong to?"


His answer shows who is who.
:smile:
 
  • #46
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Im going to try....

first tell them to bow their head if their answer is yes and turn their head left and right if the answer is no and at the same time they need to say their answer.

set 3 questions
1. is uga means yes?
2. is my name is ungoy?
3. is my question is very easy?

question number 1
3 GODS| POSSIBLE ANSWER
god1 | uga (bow their head)
god2 | booga(turn their head left and right)
god3 | uga (bow their head)

question number 2
3 GODS| POSSIBLE ANSWER
god1 | uga(bow their head)
god2 | booga(turn their head left and right)
god3 | booga(turn their head left and right)

question number 3
3 GODS| POSSIBLE ANSWER
god1 | uga(bow their head)
god2 | booga(turn their head left and right)
god3 | uga(bow their head)


in these scenario I set 2 questions, the firs question is to know if the uga means yes or no
the second question is to confirmed if they are telling the truth or false

my 3rd questions is just to know which is the God of chaos because it will answer randomly

base to their answers
god1 is the God of truth because the answer is always uga
god2 is the lier because when i ask him my name he said booga which no
god3 is the chaos, because his answers is random ..

I already know that the uga means yes because this is the answer of the god1 who already answerd the question number 2 which is I can confirmed if his answer is true..


Is these correct?:D:smile:
 
  • #47
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first tell them to bow their head if their answer is yes and turn their head left and right if the answer is no and at the same time they need to say their answer.

They refuse. You will have to find another solution.

DaveE
 
  • #48
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Honestly it took me almost an hour to find a solution ..

but I guess yeah at last haha.. it's kinda easy specially after figuring the answer out through your logic.. somehow soothing <3

Here's the solution..

The first question will be .. any question that you know was true..

Example: Are all of you twins? (knowing through the given that they really are)

Possible situations:

Situation 1:
god A = uga
god B = booga
god C = uga

Situation 2:
god a = booga
god b = uga
god C = booga

situation 3:
god A = booga
god B = booga
god C = uga

situation 4:
god A = uga
god C = booga
god C = booga

situation 5:
god A = uga
god B = uga
god C = booga

situation 6:
god A = booga
god B = uga
god C = uga

The first question will determine the very first response and the logic starts here.. it will somehow help us to define the exact solution we need..

Let's move on to the next question:

The next question should be: "Are your answers from the past question true?"

after this question we should be able to spot who god of truth or god of lie is

Knowing that your first question was answered by the god of truth correctly(First question was any question that has a yes or true answer)..
then you should expect that in your second question, the god of truth shouldn't change his answer(knowing that god of truth always tells the truth).. therefore if any god answered with the same answer from the first question.. then he could be the god of truth..

but possibility is, god of chaos might imitate the answer of god of truth..

so here's the solution: if there are two the same answers in the second question with reference to the first question, then one of them should be the god of truth and the other must be the god of chaos..

therefore one thing is certain! the other one with the opposite answer must be the god of lies!!

now let's flip the situation the other side.. to spot the god of lie

if there are two the same opposite answers in the second question with respect to the first question.. then possibility is, one of them must be the god of chaos and the other must be the god of lies..

therefore, the other one with different answer must be the god of truth!!

to sum it up..

first question: in order to have a basis or clue and to know their reactions
second question: in order to spot either the god of truth or the god of lie..

which leads us to our last question..

so having one being eliminated from the choices .. (either the god of lies or the god of truth)

then we should be able to finish the game now. .

the simplest way to solve this is:

first, after having heard their answer in the first question.. you should remember their responses

situational solutions:

after hearing their answers in the second question.. if you spotted the god of truth.. you should note the words he said, either uga or booga.. which means, if god of truth consecutively answered booga(from question 1 to 2); therefore booga should be yes.. (having been proven by your first question which requires the true answer) if it's uga, then uga should be yes..


now other way around, if you spotted the god of lies.. you should note the word he answered for the first question(since god of lies never tells the truth even though your first question requires a true answer), if it's uga .. then uga should be no, if it's booga, then booga should be no..


last and final question,

having one god eliminated from the choices since you already know who he is.. there'll be two situations

first: the two remaining should either be Chaos god or god of lies (if you spotted god of truth)
2nd: the two remaining should either be chaos god or god of truth (if you spotted god of lies)

now if you spotted first the god of truth here's the solution:

choose any of those remaining two unknown gods.. any of them.. then ask if he's the god of chaos..

first situation would be if you pointed out the chaos god, then the answer of the god of truth should be.. yes(knowing already which is yes or no refer to the 2nd step)

2nd situation would be if you pointed out the god of lies, then the answer of the god of truth should be no...

now the other way around if you spotted the god of lies

first situation if you pointed out the chaos god, then the answer of the god of lie should be.. no
second situation if you pointed out the god of truth, then the answer of the god of lie should be.. yes..


Then wollah!! the puzzle which is considered as the hardest puzzle of all time was solved..

in an hour...
 
  • #49
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Then wollah!! the puzzle which is considered as the hardest puzzle of all time was solved..
in an hour...
Well, it seems it's gonna be a little bit more...:smile:

Read the question at the fourth post, and the respective answer, at the fifth.
(once the problem is said to be a hard one, that question is almost unnecessary)

-------------------------

Post #4:
If you ask all three gods one question, does that count as asking one question or three?


Post #5:
3. In the end you can only have a total of 3 responses.
 
  • #50
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Well, it seems it's gonna be a little bit more...:smile:

Read the question at the fourth post, and the respective answer, at the fifth.
(once the problem is said to be a hard one, that question is almost unnecessary)

Opss .. haha I think I misinterpreted the puzzle.. ok2! haha so I'll solve this later :)

thank you haha
 

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