The Internet has made students lazy

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The discussion revolves around the impact of the internet on student learning and engagement, particularly in the context of research depth and critical thinking. Participants explore various articles and perspectives on whether the internet contributes to laziness among students, with references to specific studies and opinions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls an article discussing how the internet has made students less deep thinkers, linking it to a professor's concerns about shallow research among doctorate students.
  • Several participants provide links to articles discussing the effects of the internet on learning, but none seem to match the original article sought by the first poster.
  • Another participant suggests Nicholas Carr's works, "Is Google Making Us Stupid?" and "The Shallows," as potentially relevant to the discussion.
  • A participant mentions a talk by Prof. Clifford Nass, highlighting how multitasking and distractions from the internet may degrade student writing quality.
  • Some participants humorously reflect on the notion that laziness is a new phenomenon caused by the internet, suggesting that laziness existed before the internet.
  • One participant argues that it may not be the internet itself but specific websites that contribute to students' laziness by providing easy answers.
  • Another participant shares a personal perspective that searching for information online has improved their learning in areas where they were weak.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relationship between the internet and student laziness, with no consensus reached. Some argue that the internet fosters laziness, while others suggest it can enhance learning if used properly.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various articles and studies, but there are limitations in the specificity of the sources provided, and the original article remains unidentified. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of laziness and the role of the internet in education.

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Hi,

I remember some years ago I read a very informative news article online where a professor from some USA university was complaining about the doctorate students that how their research is so shallow these days. He was trying to relate it to the effects of internet. He was trying to point out how the internet has made the students lazy and less of a deep thinkers. Could you help me locate that article or anything related? I did Google but couldn't find anything. Thanks a lot.
 
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These are some good articles and I really appreciate your help. But none of these is close to the one I was referring to in my first post. Thanks
 
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Is this the article?
Nope.
What about this one?
Not that one either.
How about this?
Nope.

Do you have anything else for people to go on?
 
Maybe it's reference to
Nicholas Carr, who write "Is Google Making Us Stupid?" (Atlantic magazine) and
"The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains" (book).
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127370598
https://elearnmag.acm.org/archive.cfm?aid=2635804 [one review]

Carr is mentioned in https://www.alphr.com/science/1002312/does-the-internet-make-our-brains-lazy (a link posted by @jedishrfu ).

(Carr is listed as a Richmond Visiting Professor at https://faculty.williams.edu/2018-19-new-faculty/ )I haven't read the references above.(Waiting for my "Nope." :wink:)
 
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Here's an audio talk by the late Prof Clifford Nass on the Myth of Multitasking:



His comments were related to student papers and how student writing has degraded into disorganized thoughts, disconnected sentences... all because the student multi-tasked their way through the paper being interrupted repeatedly by texts and phone messages and other distractions.
 
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I've been searching google in spanish. No clue. Maybe Mozilla?. Haven't investigated that path
 
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Mozilla's a browser maybe try ecosia, bing or duckduckgo for searches.
 
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Apart from the specific question, I am amused that it's the internet that makes students lazy. Pre-internet, there was no laziness.

("It's these doggone scrolls that make students lazy. Why, when I was a boy we had to use stone tablets!")
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Is this the article?
Nope.
What about this one?
Not that one either.
How about this?
Nope.

Do you have anything else for people to go on?
It’s almost as if the internet has made OP lazy...
 
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In my day, it was everything related to work that made me lazy.
 
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Thank you, everyone.

Some of the mentioned sources are really informative. I was giving it a try to find the article which I read once but the provided sources and articles seem equally good. Anyway, thanks.
 
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Unfortunately, that's true. The Internet can be helpful if you use it properly.
 
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Perhaps it is not so much the internet per se but websites like PF that really make students lazy. How many times have we had questions asked about a subject that we may have been very fuzzy on and have gone to the internet to easily find an answer to an OP question. Some people don't even try when they think someone has the answer.
 
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gleem said:
Perhaps it is not so much the internet per se but websites like PF that really make students lazy. How many times have we had questions asked about a subject that we may have been very fuzzy on and have gone to the internet to easily find an answer to an OP question. Some people don't even try when they think someone has the answer.

Thats a really good insight. For me though, doing the search and reviewing what I found improved my learning in some areas where I was weak but I guess that’s often why teachers teach For the joy of learning a topic more deeply.
 
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