I The Job of the Demon: Compressing Gas Without Work

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The discussion centers on the theoretical concept of Maxwell's Demon, which suggests compressing gas without doing work by manipulating a wall based on gas movement. The demon's actions of closing and locking the wall while gas molecules move could theoretically allow energy gain during expansion. However, the feasibility of this scenario is questioned due to the energy the demon would expend in the process of decision-making and wall manipulation. The conversation highlights the impracticality of the setup in real-life applications, as well as the need for deeper understanding of existing literature on the topic. Ultimately, the thread is closed due to repetitive themes and previously addressed arguments.
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I find Maxwell's demon interesting, so I wrote my version of it. Maxwell state it in term of temperature, I wrote it in term of pressure.
Suppose we have a cylinder with one wall guard by a demon. Inside is one gas molecule moving left and right for simplicity.

Now we want to closer the wall (compress the gas) without doing work. The job of the demon is push the wall closer when the gas move left and lock the wall when the gas move right. If he close in the wall while hitting the gas, he would expend energy causing the gas to move faster and heat up.

End of the day the demon has compressed the gas without doing work. If he unlock the wall and let the gas expand, we gain energy. The gas would slow(cool) down and receive energy from the surrounding.

Of course in real life gases is number in moles so it’s impossible to find a chance where all gasses move left, but it’s possible in theory.
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How much reading have you been doing about Maxwell's Demon? In that reading, you should have found what the problem is with your setup. How much energy does the Demon expend doing this opening/closing/pushing (accelerate/decelerate) the wall? How much energy is involved in the decision making process of when to move the wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon

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Yes, I'm only interest in something new. I find that the argument against Maxwell's demon is a little short. I also read Feyman's ratchet.
 
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leafy said:
Yes, I'm only interest in something new. I find that the argument against Maxwell's demon is a little short.
But if you keep posting about banned topics or topics that have been addressed here or in the simple literature (like the Wikipedia link that I posted), you are kind of wasting folks' time, no?

Please read the link I posted in detail, and if you have questions, send me a PM. For now (much like your other threads), this thread is closed.
 
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