The Mystery of Folding Paper: Can We Do More Than 8 Times?

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The discussion centers on the physical limitations of folding paper, specifically the assertion that it is impossible to fold a standard piece of paper more than eight times. Participants highlight that the thickness of the paper and the exponential increase in size with each fold contribute to this limitation. Some suggest that machines could potentially fold paper beyond this limit, as human strength is a restricting factor. The conversation also touches on the mathematical concept of exponents, illustrating the rapid growth in size and thickness with each fold.

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Why can't we fold a piece of paper more than 8 times, no matter how large it is?

PS I've seen this question in another forum quite a long time ago but no one seems to know why. Some claimed that it can be explained by using some chemistry principles while others said it is related to math.
 
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Try it...with standard thickness paper, it just gets too thick/small to fold. Even with a large sheet, the powers-of-2 still rapidly cut the size down and make it unfoldable. (I'm sure there's a more elegant explanation than that, but that's all I have time for at the moment!)

But I think it can be done with thinner paper.
 
If someone offered you $20 a day for a month or $.01 the first day, $.02 the second, $.04 the third, etc., which would you choose?

And how many pieces of paper would you be folding that 8th time?

Ahh, the power of exponents.
 
the power of exponents
Yeah, I thought of it too when I was on my way back home from school.

However, as long as the dimensions aren't negative (and it will never be negative by folding), I think we can fold it, not by human but by machines. I think it is we who aren't strong enough to fold it, but not machines.
 
Originally posted by russ_watters
If someone offered you $20 a day for a month or $.01 the first day, $.02 the second, $.04 the third, etc., which would you choose?

And how many pieces of paper would you be folding that 8th time?

Ahh, the power of exponents.


Well, 2 to the power of 30 is roughly 1,000,000,000
so you would make roughly $20, 000, 000 the second way versus $600 the first.

I know which one I would choose.
 


Originally posted by KL Kam
Why can't we fold a piece of paper more than 8 times, no matter how large it is?



do we know it's impossible. they should make a machine do it. you know, without stubby little fingers!
 

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