How Is Spin-Orbit Coupling Derived from the Dirac Equation?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Dirac equation from the relativistic expression of kinetic energy, particularly focusing on the inclusion of electric and magnetic potentials. Participants are exploring the mathematical framework and implications of spin-orbit coupling in quantum mechanics.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the reasoning behind the inclusion of potentials in the Dirac equation derivation. They also seek clarification on how to arrive at a specific equation related to spin-orbit coupling.
  • Some participants question the validity of the original source and discuss the standard nature of including potentials in the derivation.
  • Others suggest looking into specific textbooks for better derivations and provide a mathematical identity that may be relevant to the discussion.

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Participants have engaged in clarifying the initial question regarding the inclusion of potentials and have provided references to standard practices in the derivation process. While some have found answers to their initial inquiries, others continue to seek hints for further understanding of the equations involved.

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There is mention of varying sources and difficulty in identifying authors for the original claims about the Dirac equation. The discussion also highlights the need for foundational knowledge regarding the symbols used in the equations, such as α and β.

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I have read in the internet that "One naturally derive the dirac equation when starting from the relativistic expression of kinetic energy:

##\mathbf H^2=c^2\mathbf P^2 +m^2c^4## where ##\mathbf P## is the canonical momentum.
Inclusion of electric and magnetic potentials ##\phi## and ##A## by substituting ##\mathbf P -εA##in ##\mathbf P## and ##\mathbf H -ε\phi## in ##\mathbf H## we get ##(\mathbf H -ε\phi)^2=(c\mathbf P -εA)^2+m^2c^4##

1-My first question is: Why potential and electric potentials are included in that way, I mean ##\mathbf P -εA##in ##\mathbf P## and ##\mathbf H -ε\phi## in ##\mathbf H##?

Then the text I am reading continued to the part where he stated the dirac equation which is:

##(\mathbf H-c\sum_{\mu}p_{\mu}-\beta mc^2)\psi=0##

Now with the fact that## [\mathbf H -ε\phi -cα.(\mathbf p -ε/c\mathbf A) -\beta mc^2][\mathbf H -ε\phi +cα.(\mathbf p -ε/c\mathbf A) +\beta mc^2]\psi=0##

Using the approximation that the kinetic and the potential energies are small compared to mc^2, two components of the spin function can be neglected and the equation above take the form :

##[1/2m(\mathbf p -ε/c\mathbf A)^2 +ε\phi -(ε\hbar/2mc)\sigma \cdot \mathbf B -(ε\hbar/4m^2c^2)\mathbf E \cdot \mathbf p -(ε\hbar/4m^2c^2)σ \cdot (\mathbf E \times \mathbf p)]\psi=W\psi##
Where W +mc^2 is the total energy.

2-My second question is how we can reach the second formula, If somebody can give me some hints?
 
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What internet was that? Mine says

No results found for "naturally derive the dirac equation when starting from the relativistic expression of kinetic".​
 
I downloaded this chapter.It is in the first page.
 

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It says "One naturally arrives at the Dirac equation when starting from the relativistic expression for the kinetic energy" . Hard to find an author, though.

Anyway, taking ##e\phi## and ##e\vec A## into account as shown is standard (naturally :smile:), see e.g here or here
 
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BvU said:
It says "One naturally arrives at the Dirac equation when starting from the relativistic expression for the kinetic energy" . Hard to find an author, though.

Anyway, taking ##e\phi## and ##e\vec A## into account as shown is standard (naturally :smile:), see e.g here or here

Thanks,this was helpful.
I got the answer of my first question, can you give me some hints to reach the last equation?
 
amjad-sh said:
I got the answer of my first question, can you give me some hints to reach the last equation?
Do you know what ##\alpha## and ##\beta## are? You are going to need that, along with the identity
$$
(\mathbf{\sigma} \cdot \mathbf{A})(\mathbf{\sigma} \cdot \mathbf{B}) = \mathbf{A} \cdot \mathbf{B} + i \mathbf{\sigma} \cdot (\mathbf{A} \times \mathbf{B})
$$

By the way, you can find much better derivations of the spin-orbit coupling than the document you posted. Check out instead one of
Sakurai and Napolitano, Modern Quantum Mechanics
Bransden and Joachain, Physics of Atoms and Molecules
Friedrich, Theoretical Atomic Physics
 
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