Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the calculation of the partial derivatives of the function w = arctan(y/x). Participants explore the derivatives dw/dx and dw/dy, discussing their derivations and potential corrections. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to calculus.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant proposes that the partial derivative dw/dy is x/(x^2 + y^2) and seeks confirmation.
- Another participant agrees with the first derivative and suggests a method to find dw/dx using the chain rule.
- A different participant presents an alternative expression for the partial derivatives, stating dw/dy = 1/(x + y^2/x) and dw/dx = y/(1 + (y^2/x^2)).
- One participant expresses gratitude for the assistance but questions the order of terms in a derived expression, suggesting a different formulation for dw.
- Another participant asks about the time derivative of atan(y/x), indicating interest in the dynamics of the function when y and x are functions of time.
- A further contribution outlines a detailed derivation of the time derivative, employing the chain rule and substituting values for U = y/x.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the correct formulation of the partial derivatives and the order of terms in the derived expressions. There is no consensus on the final forms of the derivatives, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the various proposed expressions.
Contextual Notes
Some participants' derivations depend on specific interpretations of the chain rule and the order of operations, which may lead to different results. The discussion also touches on the implications of treating x and y as functions of time, introducing additional complexity.