The potential difference/EMF in RL circuits

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The discussion focuses on the behavior of potential difference and electromotive force (EMF) in RL circuits. It clarifies that in a series RL circuit, when the switch is opened, the potential difference across the resistor decays exponentially towards zero as the inductance releases its stored energy. Additionally, it emphasizes that the EMF is at its maximum when the current is changing most rapidly, not due to maximum reactance, which is a concept applicable to alternating current. The conversation also highlights the need for accurate terminology and understanding of circuit dynamics.

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Homework Statement
(1) An inductance L, resistance R, and ideal battery of emf ε are wired in series and the circuit is allowed to come to equilibrium. A switch in the circuit is opened at time t = 0, at which time the current is ε/R. At any later time t the potential difference across the resistor is given by:

A.ε (1−e^−Lt/R)
B.εe^−Lt/R
C.ε (1 +e^−Rt/L)
D.εe^−Rt/L
E. ε (1−e^−Rt/L) The answer is D.

(2) An inductance L, resistance R, and ideal battery of emf ε are wired in series. A switch in the circuit is closed at time t = 0, at which time the current is zero. At any later time t the emf of the inductor is given by:

A.ε (1−e^−Lt/R)
B.εe^−Lt/R
C.ε (1 +e^−Rt/L)
D.εe^−Rt/L
E. ε (1−e^−Rt/L) The answer is D.
Relevant Equations
Potential Difference = ε*e^(-Rt/L)
I would like to share my understanding of both of these questions.

For Question (1), the inductance L is releasing its stored energy to be dissipated by the resistance R. As time passes, the voltage across L is decreasing and thus the potential difference across the resistor will be close to 0.

For Question (2), the inductance L is being charged, as the current is given zero initially and thus voltage is at its maximum (because the inductance has a maximum reactance in the beginning). As time passes, the emf of the inductance drops (less reactance), so the emf of the inductor is close to 0.

Let me know if my thought is correct.
 
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For (1), is there a diagram for the circuit in question?

If it is purely a series circuit and an inline switch is opened, where's the closed circuit to allow current to flow once that switch is opened?
 
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gneill said:
For (1), is there a diagram for the circuit in question?

If it is purely a series circuit and an inline switch is opened, where's the closed circuit to allow current to flow once that switch is opened?
There's no diagrams provided in both Question (1) and (2), but I could draw the diagrams from my own understanding. (See attachment)
 

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hidemi said:
There's no diagrams provided in both Question (1) and (2), but I could draw the diagrams from my own understanding. (See attachment)
The descriptions in the Homework Statement aren’t quite correct. I think this is intended:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/...ites/222/2014/12/20110934/Figure_24_10_01.jpg
(from https://courses.lumenlearning.com/physics/chapter/23-10-rl-circuits/)

For Q1, switch is in position 1, circuit reaches equilibrium. At t=0 switch is changed to position 2.
For Q2, switch is in position 2, circuit reaches equilibrium. At t=0 switch is changed to position 1.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
The descriptions in the Homework Statement aren’t quite correct. I think this is intended:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/...ites/222/2014/12/20110934/Figure_24_10_01.jpg
(from https://courses.lumenlearning.com/physics/chapter/23-10-rl-circuits/)

For Q1, switch is in position 1, circuit reaches equilibrium. At t=0 switch is changed to position 2.
For Q2, switch is in position 2, circuit reaches equilibrium. At t=0 switch is changed to position 1.
Thanks for the response!
I think your diagrams make more sense.
If those are the cases, then do my thoughts on post#1 still remain valid?
 
hidemi said:
Thanks for the response!
I think your diagrams make more sense.
If those are the cases, then do my thoughts on post#1 still remain valid?
Your explanation for Q1 is OK but (being picky) rather than say
“the potential difference across the resistor will be close to 0.“
I would say something like
“the potential difference across the resistor decays exponentially (tending to zero for large times)”

For Q2 you said
“thus voltage is at its maximum (because the inductance has a maximum reactance in the beginning)”.
That's wrong.

You can’t use the term ‘reactance’ here because the concept of reactance is used for alternating current flowing through an inductor (inductive reactance ##X_L = 2\pi f L## wherre ##f## is the frequency).

I would say somethng like:
“thus emf is at its maximum (because the current is changing fastest at the beginning and induced emf is proportional to rate of change of current)”
 
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Steve4Physics said:
Your explanation for Q1 is OK but (being picky) rather than say
“the potential difference across the resistor will be close to 0.“
I would say something like
“the potential difference across the resistor decays exponentially (tending to zero for large times)”

For Q2 you said
“thus voltage is at its maximum (because the inductance has a maximum reactance in the beginning)”.
That's wrong.

You can’t use the term ‘reactance’ here because the concept of reactance is used for alternating current flowing through an inductor (inductive reactance ##X_L = 2\pi f L## wherre ##f## is the frequency).

I would say somethng like:
“thus emf is at its maximum (because the current is changing fastest at the beginning and induced emf is proportional to rate of change of current)”
Thanks for your detailed explanation.
 

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