The probability that symbol j is sent and symbol k is received

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The discussion revolves around a communication system that transmits signals labeled 1, 2, and 3, focusing on the probabilities associated with sending and receiving these symbols. Participants are tasked with calculating the conditional probabilities of symbols being sent given that a specific symbol is received, as well as determining the probability of error in the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conditional probability equations to calculate the probabilities of symbols being sent given that they are received. There is an exploration of how to derive the necessary probabilities from the provided data.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested specific equations to use for calculations, while others are questioning how to obtain certain probabilities needed for their calculations. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the definitions of the probabilities involved and to confirm the correctness of the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding whether the values in the provided table represent conditional probabilities or a different form of probability. This has led to some confusion in the calculations and assumptions being made by participants.

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Homework Statement


A Communication system transmits signals labeled 1, 2, and 3. The probability
that symbol j is sent and symbol k is received is listed in the table for each
pair (j,k) of sent and received symbols. For example, the probability is 0.12
that a 1 is sent and, owning to noise in the channel 3 is received.

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Calculate the probability that the symbol k was sent, given that symbol k is
received, for k = 1,2,3, and calculate the probability of error incurred in
using this system. An Error is defined as the reception of any symbol other
than the one transmitted.

Homework Equations


1
[tex]P(B|A)=\frac{P(A|B)*P(B)}{P(A)}[/tex]
2
[tex]P(M)=P(A)*P(M|A) + P(B)*P(M|B) + P(C)*P(M|C)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Problem 1: Symbol k was sent, given that k is received
[tex]P = P_{11} + P_{22} + P_{33}[/tex]

Problem 2: probability of Error
[tex]P_e = P - 1[/tex]

Or do the numbers inside the table represent conditional probabilitys?
P(received|send) ... for example P(3|1) = 0.12
 
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I think you need to calculate p[1|1], p[2|2], p[3|3] separately using eqs. 1 and 2.
 
I thought about that but how do i get P(K) or P(J) ?
 
P(k)= P(k|1)+ P(k|2)+ P(k|3)
 
[tex]P(K_m) = P(J_n)*P(K_m|J_1) + P(J_n)*P(K_m|J_2) + P(J_n)*P(K_m|J_3)[/tex]

[tex]P(K_1) = 0.10 + 0.07 + 0.10 = 0.27[/tex]
[tex]P(K_2) = 0.06 + 0.15 + 0.15 = 0.36[/tex]
[tex]P(K_3) = 0.12 + 0.05 + 0.20 = 0.37[/tex]

a)
[tex]P(J_1|K_1) = \frac{P(J_1)*P(K_1|J_1)}{P(K_1)} = \frac{0.10}{0.27} = 0.37[/tex]
[tex]P(J_2|K_2) = \frac{P(J_2)*P(K_2|J_2)}{P(K_2)} = \frac{0.15}{0.36} = 0.4167[/tex]
[tex]P(J_3|K_3) = \frac{P(J_3)*P(K_3|J_3)}{P(K_3)} = \frac{0.20}{0.37} = 0.541[/tex]

[tex]P(J_n) = P(K_1)*P(K_1|J_n) + P(K_2)*P(K_2|J_n) + P(K_3)*P(K_3|J_n)[/tex]
[tex]P(J_1) = 0.10 + 0.06 + 0.12 = 0.28[/tex]
[tex]P(J_2) = 0.07 + 0.15 + 0.05 = 0.27[/tex]
[tex]P(J_3) = 0.10 + 0.15 + 0.20 = 0.45[/tex]

[tex]P(K_1)*P(J_1|K_1) = 0.3700 * 0.28 = 0.1036[/tex]
[tex]P(K_2)*P(J_2|K_2) = 0.4167 * 0.27 = 0.1125[/tex]
[tex]P(K_3)*P(J_3|K_3) = 0.5410 * 0.20 = 0.1082[/tex]

b)
[tex]Q = P(K_1)*P(J_1|K_1) + P(K_2)*P(J_2|K_2) + P(K_3)*P(J_3|K_3) = 0.3243[/tex]
[tex]P_e = 1-Q = 0.6757[/tex]

Is that correct? If yes how do i know that the values inside the
table are the values for P(J)*P(K|J) and not only for P(K|J)?
 
Ok, the last post was nonsense... sorry
 

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