Probability of receiving a binary one

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The discussion revolves around calculating the conditional probability of receiving a binary one given that a one was sent, in the context of signal transmission where disturbances can alter the received signal. The problem involves understanding the definitions and relationships between the events of sending and receiving binary digits.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the application of Bayes' theorem and question the correctness of the original calculations. There is a focus on the definitions of events A and B, and whether the calculations align with the problem statement. Some participants suggest reconsidering the proportions of zeros and ones sent.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the calculations and definitions involved in the problem. Some participants express confusion about the correct answer and the methodology used, while others provide feedback on the original poster's approach without reaching a consensus on the solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies between their calculations and the solution provided in the book, specifically regarding the expected probability of 147/148. The original poster also questions the notation for multiplication used in their calculations.

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Homework Statement
When transmitting ones and zeros through wires it encounters disturbance and can alter the recieved number from 0 to one and 1 to zero.

Given that you've recieved a one, whats the probability that one was actually sent?
Relevant Equations
The risk of sending 0 but receiving 1 is .01
The risk of sending 1 but receiving 0 is .02

The 0s and 1s are sent in the proportions:
Zeros .6
Ones .4
$$P(A|B) = P(A \cap B) / P(A)$$

$$P(A) = \text{Chance of 1 being received} = .4 * .98 + .6 * .01 = .398$$
$$P(A \cap B) = \text{Chance 1 being sent and 1 being received} = .4 * .98 = .392$$
$$P(A|B) = P(A \cap B) / P(A) = .392 / .398 = .985$$

The correct answer is 147/148 ~= .9932

What am I doing wrong?

Also, am I supposed to use * for multiplication or is some other symbol prefered?
 
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Addez123 said:
The correct answer is 147/148 ~= .9932
Says who ? For the problem statement as you render it I don't see 147/148 popping up any way at all !
 
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The solution in the book says 147/148 :/
 
Addez123 said:
The solution in the book says 147/148 :/
Your method looks right to me.
 
Addez123 said:
The solution in the book says 147/148 :/
Try swapping the proportion of zeros and ones that are sent!
 
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Addez123 said:
Homework Statement:: When transmitting ones and zeros through wires it encounters disturbance and can alter the received number from 0 to one and 1 to zero.

Given that you've received a one, what's the probability that one was actually sent?
Relevant Equations:: The risk of sending 0 but receiving 1 is .01
The risk of sending 1 but receiving 0 is .02

The 0s and 1s are sent in the proportions:
Zeros .6
Ones .4

$$P(A|B) = P(A \cap B) / P(A)$$

$$P(A) = \text{Chance of 1 being received} = .4 * .98 + .6 * .01 = .398$$
$$P(A \cap B) = \text{Chance 1 being sent and 1 being received} = .4 * .98 = .392$$
$$P(A|B) = P(A \cap B) / P(A) = .392 / .398 = .985$$

The correct answer is 147/148 ~= .9932

What am I doing wrong?

Also, am I supposed to use * for multiplication or is some other symbol prefered?
You got the right answer, but as a result of two errors that cancelled.
P(A|B) is the probability of event A given event B. The correct equation is ##P(A|B) = \frac{P(A \cap B) }{ P(B)}##. Note the denominator.
The other error is that you defined A and B in such a way that your calculation should have yielded the probability of getting a 1 given that a 1 was sent, which is the converse of what is asked.
 
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