The Semi-Major Axis of Binary Stars

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The discussion revolves around the definition and interpretation of the semi-major axis in binary star systems. Participants explore whether a binary system should be characterized by a single semi-major axis or two separate semi-major axes for each star, considering various factors such as mass differences and orbital dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Wikipedia defines a binary system with a single semi-major axis, while other sources suggest two semi-major axes, leading to questions about the average of the two.
  • One participant argues that the mass difference between the stars significantly affects the axes of their orbits, suggesting that a single semi-major axis may not adequately describe systems with large mass disparities.
  • Another participant questions the concept of multiple semi-major axes, asserting that two points determine a line, implying a need for clarity on how multiple axes can coexist.
  • A later reply clarifies that there are indeed two semi-major axes: one for the distance between the centers of the two stars and another for the barycentric orbits of each star.
  • One participant elaborates that the orbits of the stars are scaled versions of the overall displacement between them, introducing a scale factor based on their mass ratio, which influences the relationship between the semi-major axes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether a binary system should be described by one or two semi-major axes. There is no consensus on a standard approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best way to characterize the semi-major axes in binary systems.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of defining semi-major axes in binary systems, particularly in relation to mass differences and orbital dynamics. There are unresolved questions about the implications of using one versus two axes and the definitions involved.

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Wikipedia seems to think that a binary system is defined by a single semi-major axis, but I've seen other sources such as hyperphysics that define it using two semi-major axes. Is the semi-major axis of the system simply the average of the two?
 
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I do not know what the standard approach is to this problem. I, too, have seen both. Never for the same system, AFAIK. My take is:

Mass difference of the two stars makes a big difference in the axes of the orbit of each companion. Take this binary as an example:
O type star, mass ~90M☉ and a type G star with mass 1M☉. It is likely to have an orbit , described simply -- the smaller star orbits the bigger one. One semi-major axis.

When companions are closely matched mass-wise a simple one-axis description does not work well. Two semi-major axes, one for each orbital component more closely matches the data. Since the variety of binaries' mass differences is large there must be a more or less standard approach to the problem. Or it may relate to available data for the system. Don't know.

Also note that Wikipedia is never the best final arbiter on scientific questions.
 
Since two points determine a line, how can you have multiple semi-major axes?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Since two points determine a line, how can you have multiple semi-major axes?

There is the semi-major axis of the distance between the centers of the two objects, and then there are the semi-major axis for the barycentric orbits of each body.
 
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Since the center of mass of the whole system won't move, the orbits of the two stars independently (with two semi-major axes) are simply scaled-down versions of the "orbit" of the displacement between the stars (one semi-major axis that is the sum, not the average, of the other two). The scale factor is set by the mass ratio, where it is 1/2 if the two stars have the same mass, and 1 for the lower-mass star in the limit that the ratio goes to 0. So the scale factor for the individual orbit of star 1 is $m_2/(m_1+m_2)$, and its orbit is just a miniature copy of the orbit of the total displacement, shrunk by that factor (and of course, the two stars' independent orbits are in phase with each other but mirror reflected).
 

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