The uncertainty relation and density of states

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The discussion focuses on calculating the density of states for continuous quantum states, specifically in the context of electrons in a white dwarf. The uncertainty relation, expressed as \(\Delta^{3} p \Delta^{3}x \geq \frac{h^{3}}{2}\), is accepted as a foundational principle, leading to a maximum phase space density of \(n_{ph}=\frac{2}{h}\). The participant seeks clarity on how the uncertainty principle and the Pauli exclusion principle interact when dealing with continuous states, particularly why similar states cannot be packed arbitrarily close. The conversation highlights the need for deeper understanding of quantum mechanics principles in astrophysical contexts.

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  • Understanding of the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics
  • Familiarity with the Pauli exclusion principle for fermions
  • Basic knowledge of quantum states and phase space
  • Concept of degeneracy pressure in astrophysics
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Homework Statement



I am trying to understand how we go about calculating the density of states in situations where the available quantum states are continuous, e.g. electrons in a white dwarf.

I am happy to accept the uncertainty relation (we learned to derive it as the product of the standard deviations of the expectation values of two operators).

I am happy to accept the Pauli exclusion principle for fermions (we learned that if you try and make an antisymmetric combination of two particles in identical states, it vanishes).

I don't understand how this is applied when we don't have discrete sates.

Homework Equations



For example, in calculating the degeneracy pressure in a white dwarf star, we say:

<br /> <br /> \Delta^{3} p \Delta^{3}x \geq \frac{h^{3}}{2}<br /> <br />

But then we go on to say that this implies a maximum phase space density:

<br /> <br /> n_{ph}=\frac{2}{h}<br /> <br />

The Attempt at a Solution



What I don't understand is how the uncertainty relation justifies this maximum density. The Pauli principal only creates a problem if we try and put two electrons in identical states so I don't understand what stops us putting them in arbitrarily similar states. Why does the uncertainty in one state affect how close we can pack the next state?

Many thanks for any help. If you think my best bet would be to go and read a book about it I would be grateful for any suggestions as to which book.
 
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P.S I'm sorry I couldn't get the maths to show. I'd be grateful if someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong there as well.

EDIT: Scratch that. I found it.
 

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