The United States: your positive and negative

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quetzalcoatl9
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Maxos said:
There is nothing universal! Nothing!

can you define what you mean by this?

If I call the following statement:

P: "nothing is universal"

then this includes the statement P itself, which means that P is not universal, and hence there are times when P is not true. If P is not true, then it becomes "everything is universal", which would make P true.

Your statement is both true and false, and therefore meaningless. Such is what happens when speaking in paradoxes trying to sound profound.
 
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Hey Herr Godel, how do you do?
 
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quetzalcoatl9
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Maxos said:
Hey Herr Godel, how do you do?

:smile:

If you are familiar with Godel, then surely you can appreciate this.

You could at least say "nothing is universal, except this statement" :wink:
 
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loseyourname said:
That and the lack of notable artistic achievements. I love jazz and bluegrass music, but aside from these, the only thing I can think of is the Hollywood film.
No love for The Blues and Rock & Roll? What about great American playwrites like Arthur Miller and Tennessee Williams, or authors like Mark Twain and Ray Bradbury?

Positive: Being the first modern nation built upon the principals of liberty and democracy, and by influence, leading significant portions of the world towards governments founded in the same principles.

Negative: Having nearly wiped out the entire Native American population in order to achieve said liberty and democracy.
 
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Maxos said:
America has got a huge amount of natural resources, that is why you rule the world (and, of course, because Germany lost WWI... btw Is it true that in american schools is taught that the reason for USA to enter the war was the sinking of Lusitania?).
In American schools it is taught that the sinking of the Lusitania, along with the general continuation of unrestricted submarine warfare by Germany, was one of the many things that brought the USA to enter WWI. This and the Zimmerman telegram are cited as very significant reasons why the USA entered WWI.

Clearly it was in the USA's interest to not allow Germany to win WWI, but the sinking of the Lusitania and the Zimmerman telegram, it is taught, were necessary to convince the American people that it was worth it to enter into a European war.

Our first President, George Washington, spoke strongly against "entangling alliances". He, and many of America's founders, wanted America to stay totally neutral towards Europe, so as to remain independent of the power struggles of Europe and make sure that Americans would never be killed in a European conflict. This attitude prevailed among the American people for scores of years, and certainly was prevalent before America entered into WWI. Without things like the sinking of the Lusitania by Germany and the Zimmerman telegram, it might not have been possible for the USA to enter into WWI, for the public did not distinctly see the interests of America threatened by events an ocean away.
 
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the fact that you can't define or prove "love" does not make it any less real
 
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vanesch
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Maxos said:
Hey Herr Godel, how do you do?

The paradox cited is in fact Russel's paradox...
 
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Pros: Football!

Cons: Prison/law system, big corporations, rich politicians, transit system, dependence on oil, public school system (k-12).
 
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Positive: A willingness to get things done; a concern with doing what is right; open doors for immigrants; the most benign empire in history; the best research institutions in the world.

Negative: A sick combination of the biggest porn industry in the world and an almost puritan attitude to sex in mainstream culture; a willingness to turn private, sensitive and/or medical issues into huge political battles (e.g. abortion, euthanasia, drug addiction); a breeding ground for the worst possible forms of Christianity: fundamentalist and evangelical; nothing is safe from being exploited for the purposes of making a quick buck: not children, not sex, not human fear, not art, not anything; one of the worst primary/secondary education systems in the developed world.
 
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the most benign empire in history

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 

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