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for example, when does an electron repel another electron with an electromagnetic disturbance?
The discussion revolves around the concept of virtual photons and their potential transformation into virtual electron-positron pairs during the electromagnetic interaction between electrons. Participants explore theoretical models and implications of these interactions, focusing on the nature of virtual particles in quantum electrodynamics.
Participants express uncertainty and differing views on the implications of virtual particles and their interactions. There is no consensus on the interpretation of these theoretical models or their limitations.
Participants acknowledge the limitations of the theoretical models discussed, particularly regarding the observational aspects of virtual particles and the complexity of interactions in quantum electrodynamics.
Philipsmett said:when does an electron repel another electron with an electromagnetic disturbance?
Same charges always repel.Philipsmett said:for example, when does an electron repel another electron with an electromagnetic disturbance?
when two electrons repel by virtual photon, can this photon transform into virtual electron positron pair?PeterDonis said:I'm not sure what you mean. Can you narrow your question to a specific experimental scenario or a specific theoretical model?
Philipsmett said:when two electrons repel by virtual photon, can this photon transform into virtual electron positron pair?
Want to say that there is a possibilityPeterDonis said:If you mean, can we observe this, no. We don't even observe virtual photons exchanged by electrons that are repelling each other; virtual photons are a property of a particular theoretical model. In that theoretical model, yes, some of the probability amplitude for electrons to repel each other is due to the creation (and destruction) of virtual electron-positron pairs from (and to) virtual photons. But this theoretical model has significant limitations and should not be taken too literally. We have an Insights article that discusses this:
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/misconceptions-virtual-particles/
Philipsmett said:Want to say that there is a possibility
that a virtual photon on its way turns into a virtual electron positron pair?
Philipsmett said:as far as I understand, the more complex the process, the less likely it is to origin?