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This discussion focuses on Section 3.7 of Loring W. Tu's book "An Introduction to Manifolds" (Second Edition), specifically the properties of the wedge product and permutations in the context of differential forms. The participants clarify that for every permutation ##\sigma \in S_{k+l}##, there are ##k!## permutations ##\tau## in ##S_k## that permute the first ##k## arguments while leaving the remaining arguments unchanged. The analysis confirms that the contributions of the resulting permutations ##\sigma \tau## to the sum are equivalent due to the cancellation of sign changes in the determinant function, ensuring consistent results in the wedge product calculations.

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I am reading Loring W.Tu's book: "An Introduction to Manifolds" (Second Edition) ...

I need help in order to fully understand Tu's section on the wedge product (Section 3.7 ... ) ... ...

The start of Section 3.7 reads as follows:
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In the above text from Tu we read the following:

" ... ... for every permutation ##\sigma \in S_{ k + l }##, there are ##k!## permutations ##\tau## in ##S_k## that permute the first ##k## arguments ##v_{ \sigma (1) }, \cdot \cdot \cdot , v_{ \sigma (k) }## and leave the arguments of ##g## alone; for all ##\tau## in ##S_k##, the resulting permutations ##\sigma \tau## in ##S_{ k + l }## contribute the same term to the sum, ... ... "Since I did not completely understand the above quoted statement I developed an example with ##f \in A_2 (V)## and ##g \in A_3 (V)## ... ... so we have##f \wedge g ( v_1 \cdot \cdot \cdot v_5) ##

## = \frac{1}{2!} \frac{1}{3!} \sum_{ \sigma \in S_5 } f ( v_{ \sigma (1) }, v_{ \sigma (2) } ) g( v_{ \sigma (3) }, v_{ \sigma (4) }, v_{ \sigma (5) } )##Now ... translating Tu's quoted statement above into the terms of the example we have ... ...

" ... for every permutation ##\sigma \in S_{ 2 + 3 }## there are ##2! = 2## permutations ##\tau## in ##S_2## that permute the first ##2## arguments ##v_{ \sigma (1) }, v_{ \sigma (2) }## and leave the arguments of ##g## alone ... ... "

Now, following the above quoted text ... consider a specific permutation ##\sigma## ... say## \sigma_1 = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 \\ 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix}##Now there are ##2!= 2## permutations ##\tau## in ##S_2## that permute the first ##k = 2## arguments ##( v_{ \sigma (1) }, v_{ \sigma (2) } ) = ( v_2, v_3 )## ...

[Note ... one of the ##k!## permutations is essentially ##\sigma_1## itself ... ]

These permutations may be represented by (is this correct?)

... in ##S_2## ...

##\tau_1 = \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 3 \\ 2 & 3 \end{bmatrix}##

##\tau_2 = \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 3 \\ 3 & 2 \end{bmatrix}##and in ##S_{ 2 + 3 }## ...## \tau_1 = \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \\ 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix}##

## \tau_2 = \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \\ 3 & 2 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix}##Now the resulting permutations ##\sigma \tau## are supposed to contribute the same term to the sum ...... ... ##\sigma_1 \tau_1 = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 \\ 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \\ 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix}##

## = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 \\ 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix}##and## \sigma_1 \tau_2 = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 \\ 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 1 \\ 3 & 2 & 4 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix}#### = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 \\ 2 & 4 & 3 & 5 & 1 \end{bmatrix} ##
Now the two permutations are not identical ... but ... maybe the difference is accounted for in the ##( \text{ sgn } ) ## function somehow ... but how ... ?
Can someone please clarify the above ...

... ... could someone also confirm that the above analysis is basically correct ... ?

Peter
 

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Math Amateur said:
" ... ... for every permutation ##\sigma \in S_{ k + l }##, there are ##k!## permutations ##\tau## in ##S_k## that permute the first ##k## arguments ##v_{ \sigma (1) }, \cdot \cdot \cdot , v_{ \sigma (k) }## and leave the arguments of ##g## alone; for all ##\tau## in ##S_k##, the resulting permutations ##\sigma \tau## in ##S_{ k + l }## contribute the same term to the sum, ... ... "
I think there is a bit of abuse of notation from the author there. What he means that there is a perm ##\tau\in S_{k+l}## (not ##S_k##) that permutes the first ##k## elements and is the identity map on the last ##l## elements. So the two possible values for ##\tau## are ##\tau_1 =##(1 2 3 4 5) and##\tau_2=## (2 1 3 4 5).
If ##\sigma## is (5 1 3 4 2) then
##\sigma\tau_1=##(5 1 3 4 2)(1 2 3 4 5) = (5 1 3 4 2)
and
##\sigma\tau_2=##(5 1 3 4 2)(2 1 3 4 5) = (1 5 3 4 2)

In this case the two terms in the sum (3.5) from this ##\sigma## are:

##\textrm{sgn} (\sigma\tau_1) f(v_5, v_1) g(v_3,v_4,v_2)
= \textrm{sgn} (\sigma)\textrm{sgn}(\tau_1) f(v_5, v_1) g(v_3,v_4,v_2)##
and
##\textrm{sgn} (\sigma\tau_2) f(v_1, v_5) g(v_3,v_4,v_2)
= \textrm{sgn} (\sigma)\textrm{sgn}(\tau_2) f(v_1, v_5) g(v_3,v_4,v_2)##
and the signs of both the second 'sgn' piece and the ##f## piece change between the two, cancelling each other out and making the values the same.
 
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