The World’s Largest Vacuum Chamber Settles an Old Question

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The discussion revolves around a video showcasing NASA's Space Power Facility and its use in demonstrating the behavior of a bowling ball and a feather in a vacuum. Participants reflect on the implications of the demonstration, its historical context, and the communication of scientific concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants appreciate the video for its demonstration of physics concepts, while others express irritation at the phrase "to settle an old question," suggesting it implies a lack of prior evidence.
  • One participant references the Apollo 15 experiment conducted on the moon in 1971, noting its significance in validating established theory.
  • Concerns are raised about viewers potentially misunderstanding the implications of the demonstration, particularly regarding the behavior of objects in a vacuum compared to air.
  • Humor is introduced with a comment about the absurdity of mixing scientific concepts with misconceptions, such as the idea of creating a "negative vacuum" for anti-gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed feelings about the video and its framing, with some agreeing on the value of the demonstration while others contest the implications of its presentation. There is no consensus on the appropriateness of the video's messaging.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential for misunderstanding scientific principles among viewers, particularly regarding the behavior of objects in different environments. The discussion reflects on the historical context of similar experiments without resolving the implications of the current demonstration.

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Individuals interested in physics demonstrations, historical experiments in space, and the communication of scientific concepts may find this discussion relevant.

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Recently I came across an excellent video that brings to life an age-old physics teaching theme...

The world’s largest vacuum chamber is NASA’s Space Power Facility in Ohio, pictured below. They remove around 30 tons of air from the chamber in order to test equipment during in-space conditions.

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But in this video the facility is being borrowed to settle an old question about a bowling ball and a feather. It’s one thing to hear it from a teacher or read about it in a textbook; it’s quite another to see it for yourself.

It's only a few minutes long, so I thoroughly recommend watching and bookmarking it!
 
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Great video, but the phrase "to settle an old question" (from the website) irritates me, since it gives an impression that until this video existed, there was no evidence.
 
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The perpetual dumbing down more than just irritates me but; those feathers falling that far & just sitting next to each other like that is a meditative experience.

-Pneumatics
 
Apollo 15 did this experiment on the moon in 1971:

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo_15_feather_drop.html

From the link: "...a result predicted by well-established theory, but a result nonetheless reassuring considering both the number of viewers that witnessed the experiment and the fact that the homeward journey was based critically on the validity of the particular theory being tested."
 
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Andy Resnick said:
Great video, but the phrase "to settle an old question" (from the website) irritates me, since it gives an impression that until this video existed, there was no evidence.

I agree, that it's a great video. Science in action!

But Brian Cox was only 3 ½ years old when NASA did this experiment, so I guess he may not have remembered...

TeethWhitener said:
Apollo 15 did this experiment on the moon in 1971:

Doh! You beat me to it.


August 2, 1971​
 
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I shudder if I think of the number viewers who now conclude that in vacuum a bowling ball falls just as slowly as a feather does in air ...
 
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BvU said:
I shudder if I think of the number viewers who now conclude that in vacuum a bowling ball falls just as slowly as a feather does in air ...
And if the crackpots mix this theory with; "Dude, scientists now say you can have 'negative temperature'. Since bowling balls fall slower in a vacuum, I bet if we created a 'negative vacuum', we could invent anti-gravity. Yo, I'm going to write me a paper."
:biggrin:
 
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I'm getting cold. Or old, not sure which falls faster. Thread is closed before I get older/colder... :smile:
 
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