Theory of Acceleration: Is There a Limit?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a theoretical limit on acceleration, akin to the speed of light being a universal speed limit. Participants explore whether any existing theories propose such a limit, while distinguishing between theoretical and practical constraints on acceleration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about theories that might impose a limit on acceleration, similar to the speed of light.
  • Another participant asserts that, to their knowledge, no such theory has been proposed.
  • Some participants introduce the concept of "jerk" (the rate of change of acceleration) and question whether limits apply to higher derivatives of motion.
  • There are discussions about the implications of proper acceleration and the relationship between acceleration and the speed of light, with references to the Lorentz factor (γ) and its effects on derivatives.
  • A participant mentions a specific acceleration value that corresponds to the Unruh temperature equating to the Planck temperature, suggesting it as an interesting point rather than a definitive limit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is no established theoretical limit on acceleration, but multiple viewpoints exist regarding the implications of higher derivatives and the relationship between acceleration and relativistic effects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the existence of a theoretical limit.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of higher derivatives of motion and the conditions under which limits might apply. The discussion includes references to the mathematical treatment of acceleration and its relationship to causality, but no consensus is reached on the existence of a theoretical limit.

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Is anyone aware of any theory which includes a theoretical limit on acceleration in the same way C is the universal speed limit?

[[By this I do not mean some sort of practical limit set by energy density and known systems of propulsion.]]
 
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This has been discussed a few times on here. The answer is no.
 
Physicists are always coming up with new theories all the time, whose central tenets and or side effects introduce new consequences. I asked my question in the OP just in case some new outlier theory might include such a thing.

Thank you for informing me that, as of now, and to your knowledge, no such theory has been proposed.
 
What about jerk, da/dt? In fact while we’re at it, what about dnx/dtn? It is only when n=1 that there is a limit?
 
Sorcerer said:
What about jerk, da/dt? In fact while we’re at it, what about dnx/dtn? It is only when n=1 that there is a limit?
Yes, and that's actually somewhat intuitively reasonable if you think of the rule as "the slope of the worldline must be greater that 45 degrees".
 
Sorcerer said:
What about jerk, da/dt? In fact while we’re at it, what about dnx/dtn? It is only when n=1 that there is a limit?
Kind of. There ate no limits on ##d^2x/d\tau^2##, proper acceleration, nor on higher derivatives so far as I am aware. There are soft limits on ##d^2x/dt^2## and higher derivatives, because you can't sustain an arbitrary coordinate acceleration forever. You can make it as high as you like, but never for long enough to exceed c. This is what the ##\gamma## does in ##p=\gamma mv## when you start differentiating.

The restriction on ##dx/dt## means that a worldline that is timelike somewhere is timelike everywhere, or "causality exists".
 
Ibix said:
Kind of. There ate no limits on ##d^2x/d\tau^2##, proper acceleration, nor on higher derivatives so far as I am aware. There are soft limits on ##d^2x/dt^2## and higher derivatives, because you can't sustain an arbitrary coordinate acceleration forever. You can make it as high as you like, but never for long enough to exceed c. This is what the ##\gamma## does in ##p=\gamma mv## when you start differentiating.

The restriction on ##dx/dt## means that a worldline that is timelike somewhere is timelike everywhere, or "causality exists".

Ah, yes. You should always have a factor of 1 - (v/c)2 in every derivative in there somewhere, shouldn't you? Because of the chain rule. The first derivative of ##\gamma## changes the exponent from -1/2 to -3/2, the second to -5/2. and so on. So the restriction is always on the v/c factor. If that is greater than 1, then since the exponent will eternally be negative, you'd be dividing by zero or have an imaginary number.
 
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Naively, if your acceleration is ~3.5×1052 m s-2, then the Unruh temperature equals the Planck temperature. Not really a theoretical limit, though. More of a curiosity.
 
TeethWhitener said:
Naively, if your acceleration is ~3.5×1052 m s-2, then the Unruh temperature equals the Planck temperature. Not really a theoretical limit, though. More of a curiosity.
This is interesting. Gonna have to look this up.
 

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