Thermal motion of graphite atoms

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The discussion centers on the thermal motion of graphite atoms and its impact on balancing a pencil, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics. Participants agree that the uncertainty principle limits the balance time to approximately 3.5 seconds, while thermal motion further complicates the ability to achieve perfect balance. The conversation highlights the interplay between thermal motion and quantum mechanics, suggesting that even at absolute zero, the fundamental issues of balancing remain unresolved. Resources on lattice structures and thermal motion are sought for deeper understanding.

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  • Quantum mechanics fundamentals
  • Understanding of the uncertainty principle
  • Basics of thermal motion in atomic structures
  • Knowledge of graphite lattice properties
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Hi everyone, I've been thinking about the quantum pencil, and I can't quite convince myself that you could perfectly balance a perfectly sharpened pencil even if the uncertainty principle went away. For those who are unfamiliar with the problem, you can read about it here: http://thevirtuosi.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-long-can-you-balance-quantum-pencil.html

The idea is that the uncertainty principle prevents you from being able to balance the pencil quite perfectly, and it will balance for no more than 3.5 seconds. It seems to me, though, that the thermal motion of the atom at the tip of the pencil's graphite lattice would also make it impossible to properly balance it. Can anyone share their thoughts/provide me with some resources regarding thermal motion of lattice structures?

Thanks in advance,
P
 
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Thermal motion would also make it impossible, right. You could cool it down to absolute zero (not in reality, but an infinitely sharp pencil tip does not exist either) to avoid that. Not with quantum mechanics, but then you are back to the original balancing issue (the calculated uncertainty comes from the thermal ground state in QM!).
 

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