Thermal Physics Problem: Finding Final Temperature of a Water-Ice Mixture

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The discussion centers on calculating the final temperature of a water-ice mixture in an insulated beaker. The initial conditions include 0.350 kg of water at 76.3 degrees Celsius and ice at −18.1 degrees Celsius. The final desired temperature is 35.5 degrees Celsius. Key calculations involve using the specific heat capacities of water (4190 J/kg·K) and ice (2100 J/kg·K), along with the heat of fusion (334 kJ/kg). Participants identified errors in the heat capacity used for ice after melting and the correct application of temperature change calculations.

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Please help.

An insulated beaker with negligible mass contains liquid water with a mass of 0.350kg and a temperature of 76.3 degrees celsius.

How much ice at a temperature of −18.1 degrees celsius must be dropped into the water so that the final temperature of the system will be 35.5 degrees celsius?

Take the specific heat for liquid water to be 4190 J/kg.K, the specific heat for ice to be 2100 J/kg.K}, and the heat of fusion for water to be 334kJ/kg.

My final answer was 0.12kg, , but the feedback i received was "you are close". I can't seem to get the right answer for it. Please help.

Thanks
 
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Please help.
 
If you were close to the answer, explain us the steps of your reasoning.
 
okie dokie... i did m_ice*c_ice*(0--18.1)+ m_ice*L+ m_ice*c_ice*(35.5-0) *m_water*c_water*(35.5-76.3).

I think my mistake may have been with the heat capacity of the ice. I think i need to put 4190 instead of 2100 when the ice is melted.
 
Yep, you're close to the answer, except two things. First, substract the lower temperature from the higher temperature. Second, your mistake, after the ice has melted don't use c(ice) any more, but c(water).
 
But shouldn't the change in temp be t_final-t_initial?
 
~angel~ said:
But shouldn't the change in temp be t_final-t_initial?

Ok, it depends on the context where you use it. I was thinking that you were using the equality Q_{gained} = Q_{lost}, meaning that the heat gained by ice is equal to the heat lost by water. T_final - T_initial would make the RHS negative.
On the other hand, if you use Q_{gained} + Q_{lost} = 0 it is ok to use as you did, assuming that the lost energy is negative.
 
If you are referring to water, i think it is menat to be a negative number, because I'm using the mastering physics thing, and it says it's correct.

Thanks for your help.
 

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