Thermochemistry: Understanding Delta H and Work in Constant Pressure Reactions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of delta H in the context of a constant pressure reaction, specifically examining the relationship between delta U, expansion work, and enthalpy. Participants express confusion regarding the definitions and usage of these thermodynamic terms, as well as their application in a problem not covered in their textbook.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving delta U and expansion work, expressing uncertainty about how to calculate delta H.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of delta U, indicating a lack of clarity on its significance.
  • A third participant references a formula for delta H, suggesting a relationship between delta H, delta U, and pressure-volume work.
  • Some participants note discrepancies in the notation used for delta U and delta E, with one asserting that they are equivalent.
  • There is confusion about the definitions as different sources use different symbols, leading to uncertainty about the correct interpretation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions of delta U and delta E, nor on the correct formula to use for calculating delta H. Multiple competing views and interpretations remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of thermodynamic terms and their application in the problem presented. There is a noted lack of coverage in textbooks and differing notations that contribute to confusion.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying thermochemistry or those seeking clarification on the concepts of delta H, delta U, and their relationships in constant pressure reactions.

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1. For a certain reaction at constant pressure, delta U= -72 KJ, and 39KJ of expansion work is done by the system. What is delta H for this process.

2. I basically have no idea what to do because it's not in my textbook and my professor has never taught this. Maybe If I knew what the delta U stood for I could understand it.

Thanks

Edit: Wild guess, answer is -111 KJ?
 
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Anybody know what the damn delta U supposed to signify
 
No, It does not. In my book this is the only way this is written [tex]\Delta{H}\,=\,\Delta{E}\,+\,P\Delta{V}[/tex] My guess was that it stood for E but i wasnt sure. Does that I am right?
 
ace123 said:
No, It does not. In my book this is the only way this is written [tex]\Delta{H}\,=\,\Delta{E}\,+\,P\Delta{V}[/tex] My guess was that it stood for E but i wasnt sure. Does that I am right?

yes, some places use U and some use E, they are the same
 
Okay, Thanks

Edit: Are you stalking my posts eli64 :smile:
 

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