Calculate these 5 temperatures along this Thermodynamic cycle

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The discussion centers on calculating temperatures T2, T3, Ta, and Tc in a thermodynamic cycle using the ideal gas law and relationships between pressure, volume, and temperature. The participant established that T3 equals 4T1 and derived T2 as 2T1 using equations based on the ideal gas law (pV = nRT) and proportional relationships. It was confirmed that points A and C are on the same isotherm, indicating they share the same temperature. Further clarification on the problem statement and additional equations of state were suggested for complete analysis.

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Homework Statement
Calculate the temperatures at places 2, 4, A, B and C if you know:
It's an ideal diatomic gas
T3 = 4T1
T2 = Tb = T4
The axis connecting 1, B and 3 crosses zero.
Relevant Equations
pV = nRT
Laws of thermodynamics
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I only know T3 = 4•T1
I was able to calculate the T2 = Tb = T4
I built four equations:
T2 = p2V1 / nR
T4 = p1V2 / nR
p1/T1 = p2/T2
V1/T2 = V2/4T1

I put them together and got T2 = 2T1

I can't figure out the temperatures of A and C. I tend to think Ta could equal Tc (then I would be able to calculate it), but I am not sure.
 
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Helo @Seeit ,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​
Are you sure you have rendered the complete problem statement ? I would expect some more information, like: ideal gas, isothermal (or adiabatic), ...

I also miss an equation of state in your relevant equations (e.g. ##\ pV = NRT##).

Seeit said:
I only know ##T_3 = 4T_1##
How ? Or was that a given ? (In that case it is part of the problem statement)
Same for ##T_2 = T_b = T_4## ?

What about the scale and the axes of the diagram ?

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Welcome, @Seeit !

As post #1 has been edited to answer @BvU questions, I suggest considering two things:

-The inverse proportionality between p and V.
-The similarity between polygons 1CBA and 1234 due to the axis connecting 1, B and 3, which makes their corresponding sides proportional.

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Lnewqban said:
Welcome, @Seeit !

As post #1 has been edited to answer @BvU questions, I suggest considering two things:

-The inverse proportionality between p and V.
-The similarity between polygons 1CBA and 1234 due to the axis connecting 1, B and 3, which makes their corresponding sides proportional.

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So am I right about thinking that A and C are on the same isotherm and have therefore the same temperature?
 
Seeit said:
So am I right about thinking that A and C are on the same isotherm and have therefore the same temperature?
Correct!
 

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