Thermodynamics - efficiency question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the efficiency of a car engine based on the energy released from burning gasoline and the power output required for driving at a certain speed. The problem involves thermodynamics concepts, particularly energy conversion and efficiency calculations.

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of energy units and the calculation of efficiency using the formula e = W / Qh. There are questions about the necessity of certain variables, such as temperatures, in the calculations. Some participants suggest stating answers algebraically for clarity.

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Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored, with participants providing different values for the gallons used and the resulting efficiency. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of avoiding rounding errors in calculations.

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There is a noted lack of temperature data, which some participants believe may not be necessary for the calculations. Additionally, there are minor discrepancies in the numerical values used, which could affect the final results.

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The burning of gasoline in a car releases about 3.0 x 10^4 kcal/gal. If a car averages 41 km/gal when driving 90 km/h, which requires 25 hp, what is the efficiency of the engine under those conditions?

I think I have an answer, but I'm not sure if it's correct.

1 horsepower = 746 watts

25 hp = 18650 watts

1 kcal = 4186 joules (watts / sec)

e = W / Qh = 1 - (Ql / Qh)

1 gal / 41 km at 91 km / h means that that 2.26 gallons will be used in one hour.

Since no temperatues are given I don't think that the 1 - Ql / Qh is needed...

Converting 30000 kcal / gal to watts I get 34883 joules/sec. Since 2.26 gal are used, I multiplied the above by 2.26 to get 78836.

Dividing 18650 watts (from hp) by 78836 I got an efficiency of 23.46%.
 
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N_L_ said:
The burning of gasoline in a car releases about 3.0 x 10^4 kcal/gal. If a car averages 41 km/gal when driving 90 km/h, which requires 25 hp, what is the efficiency of the engine under those conditions?

I think I have an answer, but I'm not sure if it's correct.

1 horsepower = 746 watts

25 hp = 18650 watts

1 kcal = 4186 joules (watts / sec)

e = W / Qh = 1 - (Ql / Qh)

1 gal / 41 km at 91 km / h means that that 2.26 gallons will be used in one hour.

Since no temperatues are given I don't think that the 1 - Ql / Qh is needed...

Converting 30000 kcal / gal to watts I get 34883 joules/sec. Since 2.26 gal are used, I multiplied the above by 2.26 to get 78836.

Dividing 18650 watts (from hp) by 78836 I got an efficiency of 23.46%.
You don't need to find Qc but it is just:Qc = Qh - W. You don't need temperatures to find this.

You should state your answer algebraically so you and others can follow the physical reasoning. ie:

\eta = W/Q_h = (dW/dt)/(dQ_h/dt)

Your answer is almost right. I get 2.195 gal/hr (90/41) not 2.26.

dQ_h/dt = 2.195 * gal/hr = 3 x 10^4 * 2.195 * 4.186 KJ/hr = 2.76 x 10^8 J/hr = 7.66 x 10^4 J/sec

dW/dt = Power = 25 * 746 J/sec = 1.87 x 10^4 J/sec

So:

\eta = 1.87/7.66 = 24.4%

AM
 
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I have not rigorously checked your answer, however the efficency appears reasonable for a car, just beware of rounding too early in your calculations, this could induce significant errors. For example you obtained 78836 watts for the input power of the engine, however I obtained 78798\frac{2}{3}.

Just a small point that I sould point out is that here you said;
N_L_ said:
1 kcal = 4186 joules (watts / sec)
I'm sure this is just a typo, but this should be joules = watts * sec. Power is work done (energy) divided by time, therefore it follows that energy is the product of power and time.

~H

Sorry AM, didn't see your post. I sould learn to type faster :wink:
 
Thank you.
 

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