Thermodynamics of Spacetime: The Einstein Equation of State?

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The discussion centers on Ted Jacobson's paper "Thermodynamics of Spacetime: The Einstein Equation of State," which explores the interconnections between General Relativity (GR), thermodynamics, and Quantum Field Theory (QFT). Key questions arise regarding the implications of the second law of thermodynamics and its relationship to time-reversal invariance in GR, as well as Jacobson's definition of heat in the context of spacetime dynamics. The conversation highlights the relevance of the holographic principle and the concept of entropy as a measure of hidden information, linking these theories to the broader discourse on black hole mechanics.

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  • Understanding of General Relativity (GR)
  • Familiarity with thermodynamics principles
  • Knowledge of Quantum Field Theory (QFT)
  • Awareness of the holographic principle
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  • Read Ted Jacobson's paper "Thermodynamics of Spacetime: The Einstein Equation of State"
  • Explore Stephen Hawking's work on black hole thermodynamics
  • Investigate the holographic principle and its implications in theoretical physics
  • Study Leonard Susskind's "THE BLACK HOLE WAR" for insights on entropy and information
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Physicists, cosmologists, and students of theoretical physics interested in the intersections of thermodynamics, spacetime, and quantum gravity.

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Hi,

I have recently been delving into Quantum gravity related material... and I came across a paper by Ted Jacobson "Thermodynamics of Spacetime: The Einstein Equation of State" http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9504004 and as far as I understand the argument it is very impressive who would have thought that three seemingly unrelated theories could be so closely tied (GR, thermo and QFT). But I have two questions:

1) Why starting from the 2nd law which assumes an arrow of time can we extract a theory which is time reversal invariant GR? (this is probably closely related to the work of Hawking which I am unfamiliar with)

2) His interpretation of heat puzzles me:

"In thermodynamics, heat is energy that flows between degrees of freedom
that are not macroscopically observable. In spacetime dynamics, we shall
define heat as energy that flows across a causal horizon."

specifically he identifies Q (the heat) with T^{\alpha\beta} (the energy momentum tensor.)

cheers

M
 
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This seems dependent on the holographic principle/conjecture...and all these things tie together when entropy is considered as information...

entropy is a measure of hidden information (not macroscopically observable) with heat and entropy closely related.

wiki has some insights at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_black_hole_mechanics

I hesitate to make any other comments as I would be as likely to mislead as enlighten.

Leonard Susskind has good discussion on this general subject, THE BLACK HOLE WAR, in various places under thermo/heat/entropy as does Charles Seife, DECODING THE UNIVERSE, including pages 70 to 85...
 

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