Thermodynamics: Show that the two relations give Pv = RT

You will get ln(P) = -ln(v) + ln(T) + C, where C is the constant of integration. Exponentiate both sides and you will get the ideal gas law.In summary, the given relations for an ideal gas show that the isotherm slope is (∂P/∂v) constant T = -P/v and the isochore slope is (∂P/∂T) constant v = P/T. By treating these equations as ordinary differential equations and solving for two constants, which are then functions of the constant variables T and V, the ideal gas law Pv = RT is obtained.
  • #1
karan4496
8
0

Homework Statement



For an ideal gas the slope of an isotherm is given by

(∂P/∂v) constant T = -P/v

and that of an isochore is

(∂P/∂T) constant v = P/T

Show that these relations give Pv = RT

Homework Equations



Pv = RT

The Attempt at a Solution



I have never worked with partial derivatives before encountering this problem so I am unfamiliar with the rules and operations involved. I tried setting them equal, adding them to each other but I just don't know where I am going.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
You can treat each of the equations as an ordinary differential equation where the independent variable is V and T respectively. When you solve them, you will have two constants. But these constants must be then functions of the "constant" variable, T and V respectively. Then you should be able to find those functions and get the ideal gas law.
 
  • #3
Ok so I got up to this step.

dP = -P/v dv + P/T dt

Im unsure of how to proceed from here
 
  • #4
Divide by P and then integrate.
 
  • Like
Likes Moti
  • #5


Dear student,

The two relations given (∂P/∂v) constant T = -P/v and (∂P/∂T) constant v = P/T are both partial derivatives of the ideal gas law, which is given by Pv = RT. This law describes the relationship between pressure (P), volume (v), temperature (T), and the universal gas constant (R) for an ideal gas.

To show that these two relations give Pv = RT, we can use the chain rule for partial derivatives. Starting with the first relation, we can write:

(∂P/∂v) constant T = (∂P/∂v) constant T * (∂v/∂v) constant T

= (∂P/∂v) constant T * 1 (since volume is constant)

= (∂P/∂v) constant T

Similarly, for the second relation, we can write:

(∂P/∂T) constant v = (∂P/∂T) constant v * (∂T/∂T) constant v

= (∂P/∂T) constant v * 1 (since temperature is constant)

= (∂P/∂T) constant v

Now, we can substitute these expressions into the ideal gas law, Pv = RT, to get:

(∂P/∂v) constant T * (∂v/∂v) constant T * v = (∂P/∂T) constant v * (∂T/∂T) constant v * v

Simplifying, we get:

(∂P/∂v) constant T * v = (∂P/∂T) constant v * v

Canceling out the v on both sides, we are left with:

(∂P/∂v) constant T = (∂P/∂T) constant v

Substituting back into the original equations, we get:

- P/v = P/T

Multiplying both sides by v and T, we get:

- Pv = PT

But we know that from the ideal gas law, Pv = RT, so we can substitute this in to get:

- RT = PT

Dividing both sides by T, we get:

- R = P

Since the gas constant (R) and pressure (P) are both constants, we can simplify this to
 

1. How do the equations Pv = RT and PV = nRT relate to thermodynamics?

The equations Pv = RT and PV = nRT are both forms of the ideal gas law, which is a fundamental equation in thermodynamics. They describe the relationship between pressure (P), volume (V), temperature (T), and the number of moles of gas (n) in a system.

2. Can you explain the meaning of each variable in the equation Pv = RT?

In the equation Pv = RT, P represents pressure, v represents volume, R is the universal gas constant, and T represents temperature. The equation states that the product of pressure and volume is equal to the product of the universal gas constant and temperature.

3. Why is the ideal gas law important in thermodynamics?

The ideal gas law is important in thermodynamics because it helps to describe the behavior of gases under different conditions. It can be used to calculate the volume, pressure, or temperature of a gas given the other variables, and it provides a basis for understanding the properties of gases in different systems and processes.

4. How can the equation Pv = RT be derived from the ideal gas law?

The ideal gas law, PV = nRT, can be rearranged to the form Pv = RT by dividing both sides by the number of moles, n. This yields the equation for the behavior of a single mole of gas, where R is the universal gas constant.

5. Are there any limitations to the use of the equation Pv = RT?

Yes, there are limitations to the use of the equation Pv = RT, as it is based on certain assumptions about the behavior of gases. It is most accurate for ideal gases at low pressures and high temperatures. It becomes less accurate for real gases at high pressures and low temperatures, where intermolecular interactions become significant.

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
566
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
984
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
663
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
18
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
718
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
7K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
1K
Back
Top