Thermodynamics with styrofoam cooler

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a thermodynamics scenario with a cubical styrofoam cooler containing ice. The original poster seeks to determine the outside temperature based on the time it takes for the ice to melt, given specific dimensions and thermal conductivity of the cooler.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for conductive heat flow but encounters two unknowns. They raise questions about whether to use the total surface area or just one side for calculations and what temperature change to assume during the melting process.

Discussion Status

Some participants engage with the original poster's questions, seeking clarification on the symbols in the conductive heat flow formula and the derivation of that formula. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants exploring foundational concepts without reaching a consensus on the specific approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a need for clarification on the application of the formula and the assumptions regarding temperature change, suggesting potential constraints in their understanding of the problem setup.

physikx
Messages
10
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A cubical styrofoam cooler 80cm on a side and 2.0 cm thick contains 2.0kg of ice at 0C. If it takes four hours for the ice to melt what is the outside temperature? K(st)=.02 w/m*K

Homework Equations


H=-KA (ΔT/ΔX)
(conductive heat flow)

The Attempt at a Solution



Area: 6(a)^2= 6(.8)^2= 3.8m^2
Δx=.02m
K(st)=.02 w/m*K

H=-.02 w/m*K(3.8m^2) (ΔT/.02m)So I used the formula for the conductive heat flow, but I still have two unknowns. I know H is ΔQ/Δt, but I am asked for the time. I had two questions in regards to this problem:
1. for the area do I find the total surface area or just one side?
2. what temperature change ΔT should I set the ΔQ formula if I am assuming the ice is melting?

Thanks for the help!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
physikx said:
So I used the formula for the conductive heat flow, but I still have two unknowns. I know H is ΔQ/Δt, but I am asked for the time. I had two questions in regards to this problem:
1. for the area do I find the total surface area or just one side?
2. what temperature change ΔT should I set the ΔQ formula if I am assuming the ice is melting?

Thanks for the help!

First of all, what do the symbols in the formula for the conductive heat flow mean?
Can you derive that formula?


ehild
 
ehild, thank you for your reply and I apologize for this far too late of response. I figured out the answer to this problem after grinding the problem for a while. I am done with my final for the first part of physics! I can not wait for the second part in a week :) Thanks again and talk to you soon.

physikx
 
Congratulation!:smile:

ehild
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
855
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
25
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
7K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K