What is the molar heat capacity of an ideal gas at constant pressure and volume?

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The problem involves determining the molar heat capacities of an ideal gas at constant pressure and volume, given a specific amount of heat supplied and the resulting temperature change. The context is thermodynamics, particularly focusing on the behavior of ideal gases under isobaric conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of molar heat capacity at constant pressure (C_p) and constant volume (C_v) using the heat supplied and temperature change. There are attempts to relate the heat capacities to the type of gas (monatomic or diatomic) based on known values for ideal gases.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for C_p and C_v, while others are questioning the correctness of formulas used and exploring the implications of the results. There is an ongoing examination of the relationship between the heat capacities and the nature of the gas, but no consensus has been reached regarding the classification of the gas.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the constraints of the problem, including the need to use consistent formulas for heat capacities and the implications of the calculated values on identifying the type of gas. There is also mention of specific heat capacity values for monatomic gases, which may influence the interpretation of the results.

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Homework Statement



117 J of energy is supplied as heat to 2.00 moles of an ideal gas at constant
pressure, the temperature rises by 2.00 K. Calculate the molar heat capacity at
constant pressure C_p,m and the molar heat capacity at constant volume C_v,m
for the gas. Is the gas monatomic or diatomic?

Homework Equations


PV = nRT
ΔQ = n Cp ΔT

The Attempt at a Solution


ΔQ = 117 J
n = 2 moles
ΔT = 2 K

ΔQ = n Cp ΔT = n αR ΔT
Cp = ΔQ/ (nΔT) = 29.25 J/K mole
Cp/R = 3.52

For ideal gases equation of state is
PV = nRT,
and work performed by the gas in isobaric process is
dA = PdV = nRdT,
which means Cv = Cp - R = 2.52 R.

But I have no idea how to relate this information to work out if its diatomic or monatomic.
 
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What is Cp for an ideal monoatomic gas?
 
Hello Banyans, :welcome:

Hard to give a hint here without spoiling the exercise. Don't the values of ##{7\over 2}## and ##{5\over 2}## ring a bell ? What would they be for an ideal monatomic gas ?
 
mfb said:
What is Cp for an ideal monoatomic gas?
5/2R?
 
So would I proceed in the following way?

Cp=29.25

Cp=Cv+nR
29.25=Cv+2(8.31451)

so

Cv=12.621

So there fore its a monoatomic gas? since Cv=3/2R?
 
Banyans said:
5/2R?
That is Cp for a monoatomic gas, right. Does that match the result you got for the unknown gas?
Banyans said:
Cp=Cv+nR
That formula is not right. Use specific heat capacities or use total heat capacities, but do so in a consistent way.
 

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