Thickening of Gasoline upon long term storage

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the thickening of gasoline into a gel-like substance after long-term storage in a plastic container. Participants explore the chemical and physical changes that may occur in gasoline over time, including oxidation, evaporation of volatile components, and potential interactions with the container material. The conversation includes various hypotheses regarding the causes of these changes and the implications for the usability of the gasoline.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the thickening of gasoline may result from the evaporation of lighter hydrocarbons, leaving behind thicker, longer-chain hydrocarbons.
  • Others propose that oxidation could contribute to the discoloration and thickening of the gasoline, indicating a chemical change over time.
  • Concerns are raised about the airtightness of the container, with some questioning whether any leakage allowed volatile components to escape.
  • One participant notes that the change in smell and significant reduction in volume suggests that evaporation has occurred.
  • There are claims that the interaction between gasoline and the plastic container could lead to the dissolution of plasticizers, contributing to the gel-like consistency.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the likelihood of gasoline turning into a gel under normal storage conditions, citing personal experiences with gasoline storage.
  • Technical details regarding the chemical composition of gasoline and its reactivity are discussed, with references to the types of hydrocarbons present and their behavior under various conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the causes of the gasoline thickening. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the roles of evaporation, oxidation, and container interaction, with some expressing skepticism about the phenomenon described by the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty about the airtightness of the container, the specific conditions under which the gasoline was stored, and the potential effects of different gasoline formulations (e.g., ethanol blends). The discussion also highlights the complexity of chemical reactions involved in gasoline aging.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in fuel storage, chemistry enthusiasts, and those concerned with the effects of long-term storage on gasoline quality.

Frenemy90210
Once I had stored Petrol (Gasoline) in a airtight 1 liter plastic container for 6-8 months. When I opened the container, Gasoline had become a thick brown gel. Is it reusable ? Is it still Gasoline or it has become something else ? Thx
 
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It will still burn, but I would not put it into the engine.

If it was in the plastic container two things come to mind. First, lighter hydrocarbon fractions can seep (not sure if that's technically the best word to use) out through the plastic. Whatever is left will be thicker than the original mixture. Second, depending on what the plastic was, some of it could dissolve, changing the liquid viscosity.
 
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How certain are you that the container was air tight?

Brown discoloration suggests oxidation, thickening into a gel indicate the more volatile constituents have evaporated, and both phenomena in combination point toward less-than-airtight storage.
 
Asymptotic said:
How certain are you that the container was air tight?

Brown discoloration suggests oxidation, thickening into a gel indicate the more volatile constituents have evaporated, and both phenomena in combination point toward less-than-airtight storage.
Are you saying that when gasoline hydrocarbons evaporate there is a residue left behind?
I am also wondering about the "oxidation" chemical reaction.
 
Was there any change in volume of liquid in container ?

Any change in smell compared to normal gasoline ?

Any damage to container ?

Any sign of pressure in container having been higher or lower than atmospheric - sides ballooned out or sucked inwards?

Any organic residue ? (Moth soup can be quite glutinous sometimes) .
 
256bits said:
Are you saying that when gasoline hydrocarbons evaporate there is a residue left behind?
I am also wondering about the "oxidation" chemical reaction.
Yes. When volatile, short chain hydrocarbons evaporate away what remains are the more viscous, longer chain hydrocarbons.

Read this article on The Straight Dope for a gloss of what occurs. Google "gasoline oxidation reaction" if you are interested in the details..
 
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Asymptotic said:
Yes. When volatile, short chain hydrocarbons evaporate away what remains are the more viscous, longer chain hydrocarbons.

Read this article on The Straight Dope for a gloss of what occurs. Google "gasoline oxidation reaction" if you are interested in the details..
OK.
I have never known standing gasoline to completely turn to a gel like consistency over time.
That is certainly not projected as being a long term storage problem from the industry.
Ethanol blend, water or other contamination, bad batch.
Varnish deposits and resin formations, but that was a small percentage of the total volume.
Oxidation and polymerization age the fuel but to what extent and time frame.
https://www.intechopen.com/books/st...ing-processes-in-long-term-storage-conditions
http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/1polymer/reactions.html#cationic
 
256bits said:
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OK.
I have never known standing gasoline to completely turn to a gel like consistency over time.
That is certainly not projected as being a long term storage problem from the industry.
Ethanol blend, water or other contamination, bad batch.
Varnish deposits and resin formations, but that was a small percentage of the total volume.
Oxidation and polymerization age the fuel but to what extent and time frame.
https://www.intechopen.com/books/st...ing-processes-in-long-term-storage-conditions
http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/1polymer/reactions.html#cationic

I've never had a problem with E10 gasoline and 2 cycle mix stored over the winter in plastic gas cans located in a cool, dark place, and have seen severe gelling happen only once, and only through mischance. Several years ago in late fall I had been mixing 2 cycle engine oil with gasoline, and accidentally left approximately 100 ml of gas in an exposed beaker in an unheated shed - by the time spring rolled around it had gelled up pretty well.

That's why I'm wondering whether the OP's container is truly air tight, or come to think of it, possibly stored where it is exposed to direct sunlight.
 
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I think it's almost certain that some of the plastic has dissolved in the gasoline, gelifying it. I've seen plastic containers dissolve because of acetone, and even aniline (which really isn't the most nonpolar solvent you can think of).
 
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Nidum said:
Was there any change in volume of liquid in container ?.
Yes. Around 90 % reduction.

Any change in smell compared to normal gasoline ?.
Yes. Smell had almost gone and whatever smell was remaining, was different.

Any damage to container ?.
Nope.

Any sign of pressure in container having been higher or lower than atmospheric - sides ballooned out or sucked inwards?.
Little bit of inward sucking.

Any organic residue ? (Moth soup can be quite glutinous sometimes) .
Nope.

Gasoline was of a standard variety not the high-octane one. I am sure container was airtight. Container was not exposed to sunlight.
 
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@hilbert2 and @Borek are almost certainly right: some plasticizer leached out of the bottle and that's what you're observing.

Edit: just to be clear, over 6-8 months, you only need the container to be just a tiny bit "not-airtight" for everything volatile inside to evaporate.
 
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never had the issue, even in my antique barn finds. not till ethanol came about.
 
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Gasoline is "one (or single) fraction" from distillation on large industrial column. Hard to believe it could be fractionated during evaporation through improper sealing of container. When consider oxidation reactions, remember that gasoline consist mainly of parafin hydrocarbons. "Par affinos" means "without affinity" to common chemicals, read "non-reactive" in ambient conditions. Minor components of a gasoline are mainly aromatic hydrocarbons, also nonreactive in room temperature. One can expect trace amounts of olefins and heteroaromatic compounds, also hard to react with oxygen at room temperature. Ethanol added is also nonreactive without catalyst. Oxidation of these classes of compounds is catalytic reaction, hard to believe you have catalyst in your plastic can - polymer additives are (or should be) without such reactivity. Of course, burning of gasoline is oxidation reaction, but it needs activation by flame temperature.
Polymerisarion of unsaturated components of gasoline (aromatics, heteroaromatics, olefins) is frequently observed during action of tourist burner (flame close to gasoline container) and manifests itself as non-flammable residue in container, sometime gelaous. Without high temperature and pressure it strongly needs catalyst, and in commercial plastics traces of catalysts are highly dispersed, hard to meet at surface.
Gelation of a gasoline is known in the Napalm production, and sodium palmitate is similar to some products in plastics deterioration and plastics additives.
Best regards.
 

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