Thin Film Reflection: Interference Phenomenon

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The discussion revolves around the wave phenomenon responsible for the formation of colorful regions when white light reflects off a thin film, specifically a gasoline layer on water. Participants explore the relationship between the thickness of the film and the resulting interference effects on light waves.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine how varying thickness affects interference and question whether all colors are equally impacted. They discuss the nature of the phase changes upon reflection and how these relate to the observed colors.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concept of interference as the wave phenomenon in question. Some participants suggest that the different wavelengths of light interact differently with the film, while others emphasize the need to clarify the distinction between general wave phenomena and specific light wave behaviors.

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Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and properties of light and waves, particularly regarding how these relate to the question posed. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations about the nature of the phenomenon and the role of phase changes in explaining the observed effects.

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I need help with this question:

"Name the wave phenomenon that is responsible for the formation of regions of different color when white light is reflected from a thin film floating on water."

In my handy-dandy high-school physics book, it says that "The different thickness of the gasoline is what causes the different regions of different color."

This is not a phenomenon of light, but rather a phenomenon of the gasoline... I know how thin films work, how some bounces off, experiences a phase change and then interferes deconstructively with light bouncing off the water while in the oil, but this does not really explain the different regions of different colors... So how do I accurately answer the question?
 
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Hints: How does the thickness of the film affect the interference? Are all colors (wavelengths) equally affected?
 
No, of course not, because of the different wavelengths and diferent n values some deconstruct and others don't. So then, a suitable answer would be something like:
Different wavelengths of light bounce off differently, and depending on the thickness of the gasoline, different colors deconstruct and thus regions of different color are formed?

That doesn't sound right, it's a property of white light, not a property of a wave... Oh! OH! Could it be the fixed end thing? Because a wave experiences a phase change when it hits a fixed end (or when light goes from a smaller n to a larger n) that is what causes the light to deconstruct on a thin film.
 
Hyacinth42 said:
No, of course not, because of the different wavelengths and diferent n values some deconstruct and others don't. So then, a suitable answer would be something like:
Different wavelengths of light bounce off differently, and depending on the thickness of the gasoline, different colors deconstruct and thus regions of different color are formed?
Sounds reasonable.

That doesn't sound right, it's a property of white light, not a property of a wave...
But light is a wave!

Oh! OH! Could it be the fixed end thing? Because a wave experiences a phase change when it hits a fixed end (or when light goes from a smaller n to a larger n) that is what causes the light to deconstruct on a thin film.
But the phase changes upon reflection are the same no matter what the thickness.
 
Doc Al said:
But light is a wave!

Yes, light is a wave, but they ask "The wave phenomenon", I read that as general wave phenomenon rather than light wave phenomenon.

But the phase changes upon reflection are the same no matter what the thickness.

Yes, and thus, it is a wave phenomenon rather than a light wave and thin film phenomenon.
 
Hyacinth42 said:
Yes, light is a wave, but they ask "The wave phenomenon", I read that as general wave phenomenon rather than light wave phenomenon.
The "wave phenomenon" involved is interference.
Yes, and thus, it is a wave phenomenon rather than a light wave and thin film phenomenon.
The phase change upon reflection is certainly a "wave phenonmenon"; but since it's the same for all thickness it, by itself, cannot explain the different colors.
 

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