Things People Learn Wrong in School?

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This discussion highlights prevalent misconceptions in physics and mathematics that students often learn in school. Key errors include the misunderstanding of atomic structure, such as the belief that electrons orbit the nucleus like planets, and the incorrect interpretation of relativistic mass. Additionally, misconceptions about electricity, such as the speed of electron flow in circuits and the nature of magnets, are frequently propagated. The conversation emphasizes the need for accurate science education and the challenges teachers face in conveying complex concepts effectively.

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  • Understanding of basic atomic structure and Dalton's Law
  • Familiarity with concepts of relativistic mass and particle physics
  • Knowledge of basic electricity principles, including electron flow and magnetism
  • Awareness of mathematical concepts such as convergence and limits
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  • #61
PeteyCoco said:
The Octet Rule! I would have had a much better time in school and intro chem if I understood that it was mainly to C N O and F. I'm sure my teachers mentioned it at some point, but I never listened in high school. Sometimes I feel like I wasn't old enough to appreciate what was being taught in high school!

That's how I see a lot of people as.. but you got to remember there are people out there who really want to learn!
 
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  • #62
In elementary school (when I was 8) I was taught that the surface tension of water was due to gravity: Our teacher put the end of a pencil into water and removed it very slowly until it was over the surface but the water was still sticky on it. She said that it's the same force that the Moon exerts on Earth and create tides. The worst thing is that I believed her.

I don't think someone had a similar experience but if you do, please post. :)
 
  • #63
0xDEADBEEF said:
same for singers breaking wine glasses (at least it doesn't work for non defective glasses)

I think that one was more often seen a century or more ago when the average glass was a lot less perfect and had stresses in it.

I only saw it once, sitting at a restaurant table this thick glass suddenly exploded and all that was left was a fine glass powder (except for the stalk I think).
 
  • #64
epenguin said:
I think that one was more often seen a century or more ago when the average glass was a lot less perfect and had stresses in it.

I only saw it once, sitting at a restaurant table this thick glass suddenly exploded and all that was left was a fine glass powder (except for the stalk I think).

Oh yes glass can do that.
 
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  • #65
I saw in an elementary physics book which was the book set for some students I briefly taught, about hydrostatic pressure, that deep sea fish had large mouths so as to equalise pressure outside and inside them and not be crushed.
 
  • #66
PeteyCoco said:
The Octet Rule! I would have had a much better time in school and intro chem if I understood that it was mainly to C N O and F. I'm sure my teachers mentioned it at some point, but I never listened in high school. Sometimes I feel like I wasn't old enough to appreciate what was being taught in high school!

Can you please elaborate?
 
  • #67
In about year 7, first year of secondary school in the United Kingdom, most of my friends, my history, drama and English teachers had all tried, rather painstakingly, to convince me that 0/0 is 0. I knew this was false, but I didn't really understand why. Most of the world population would agree with them sadly. I did not have the chance to ask my math teacher. Then again, this was year 7. I now know that 0/0 is much more complicated than that...

BiP
 
  • #68
fluidistic said:
In elementary school (when I was 8) I was taught that the surface tension of water was due to gravity: Our teacher put the end of a pencil into water and removed it very slowly until it was over the surface but the water was still sticky on it. She said that it's the same force that the Moon exerts on Earth and create tides. The worst thing is that I believed her.

I don't think someone had a similar experience but if you do, please post. :)

I have read the equivalent level of nonsense on some posts on PF in the past. When challenged, the posters have managed to get very stroppy, too!.
 
  • #69
Dang me if the very next post I read (not on this thread) wasn't the finest of example of that. Teachers don't have a monopoly.
 

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