Thought experiment: Photons in a box

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of trapping photons inside a mirrored box and then decreasing the size of the box. There is speculation about the possibility of a mini black hole appearing, the photons exerting pressure, and other possibilities. However, it is suggested that the interaction between the trapped photons and the atoms of the mirrors may ultimately lead to the photons being freed from the box before any of these events occur.
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Consider a box whose walls are mirrors. Suppose we trap a bunch (yes, it's vague) of photons inside the box. They will not escape, or assume that a major part of them will not escape the box.

Now suppose we have a way of decreasing the size of the box at our will, but possibly obeying the laws of physics (i.e. not infinetly decreasing the size of the box). As we imagine decreasing the box, some interesting thoughts arise

- At some point there would appear some kind of mini black hole?

- The photons would exert some kind of pressure outwards?

- And possible other possibilites...

I would like to know what/if any of these would be more likely.

OR... remembering that the mirrors are made of atoms, well before those interesting things becoming likely to happen the interaction of the trapped photons with the mirrors atoms would somehow have freed the photons out of the box.
 
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The answers are going to be mathematical... as a thought experiment it might be easier if you let the box be replaced by an internally mirrored sphere?
 
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Yea, a sphere would better fit the story.
 
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kent davidge said:
- At some point there would appear some kind of mini black hole?.
Assuming nothing escapes the walls of your ever reducing sphere then yes a black hole will be the result.
Because at some point there will be X photons existing in a zero volume,
My guess is that your perfect mirror sphere will get very hot and break before that happens,
 
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kent davidge said:
well before those interesting things becoming likely to happen the interaction of the trapped photons with the mirrors atoms would somehow have freed the photons out of the box.
Bingo! :biggrin:
 
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1. What is a thought experiment?

A thought experiment is a mental exercise or hypothetical scenario used to explore the implications of a theory or concept.

2. What is the "photons in a box" thought experiment?

The "photons in a box" thought experiment is a classic experiment in quantum mechanics that explores the behavior of particles such as photons (particles of light) when confined in a closed space.

3. How does the "photons in a box" thought experiment work?

In this thought experiment, a box with perfectly reflective walls is placed in a vacuum. Photons are then introduced into the box and allowed to bounce around. The experiment explores how the photons behave and interact with each other and the walls of the box.

4. What are the implications of the "photons in a box" thought experiment?

The experiment has implications for our understanding of quantum mechanics and the nature of particles and energy. It also helps to explain phenomena such as the photoelectric effect and the wave-particle duality of light.

5. How is the "photons in a box" thought experiment relevant in modern science?

The "photons in a box" thought experiment is still relevant in modern science as it continues to be used as a tool for understanding quantum mechanics and the behavior of particles at the atomic and subatomic level. It also has practical applications in technologies such as lasers and solar cells.

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