Thoughts travelling faster than c

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the claim made in the program "Through the Wormhole" that thoughts can travel faster than the speed of light (c). Participants express skepticism about this assertion, questioning the validity of the show's scientific claims and exploring the nature of thoughts and their measurement.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disbelief that thoughts can travel faster than c, pointing out that information cannot exceed this speed.
  • One participant mentions that measuring the speed of thoughts is complex and suggests it may involve the speed of neuronal signals.
  • Another participant humorously notes that rumors can spread faster than official information, implying a distinction between thought and information transmission.
  • Several participants discuss the idea that the program might be using metaphorical language about "visiting" distant galaxies with one's mind, though this is debated as being more poetic than scientific.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of the program's scientific content, with some participants criticizing its portrayal of scientific concepts.
  • One participant suggests that understanding thoughts requires solving deeper philosophical questions about consciousness.
  • There is a suggestion that the program could be entertaining despite its scientific inaccuracies, with some participants finding value in its imaginative aspects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the claims made in the program, with multiple competing views on the nature of thoughts and their speed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the scientific accuracy of the show's assertions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of defining and measuring thoughts, as well as the philosophical implications of consciousness, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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I was watching a program, Through the Wormhole.
They were saying thoughts can travel faster than c, I thought information couldn't even travel faster than c. I don't know how this could be true?
 
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Oh my god, they did?

What kind of garbage is that show putting out there.

That's so wrong and stupid that I want to kill whoever is in charge of producing that show.
 
baha, calm down
 
I saw that programme last year - although it was only transmitted the other day. A wormhole, perhaps, or I could just be lying.
 
I'd be curious how you go about measuring the speed of thoughts...
 
I know that rumours can travel faster than the official version of most stories.
This is a silly topic, you know.
 
I guess the speed a signal is sent through a neuron, along with how many neuron communications it takes to make a 'thought' would give the speed of a thought.
 
Cbray said:
I was watching a program, Through the Wormhole.
They were saying thoughts can travel faster than c, I thought information couldn't even travel faster than c. I don't know how this could be true?

I ranted on this show in another post recently. They're just flat full of crap a lot of the time.

Too bad because it can be an entertaining show and has good production values except for the fact that their science adviser seems to be a high school dropout.
 
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It depends on how you see it. They were probably talking about the fact that you can go and visit Andromeda galaxy with your mind (of course you just imagine being there) in a flash as oposed to the time taken by the light to get there.
Of course it's more poetry than science but for lots of people this is food for thought.
 
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atomthick said:
It depends on how you see it. They were probably talking about the fact that you can go and visit Andromeda galaxy with your mind (of course you just imagine being there) in a flash as oposed to the time taken by the light to get there.
Of course it's more poetry than science but for lots of people this is food for thought.

You cannot "visit" anything. The fact that it's artistic doesn't stop it being totally wrong.
 
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BruceW said:
I guess the speed a signal is sent through a neuron, along with how many neuron communications it takes to make a 'thought' would give the speed of a thought.

First you would have to solve the hard problem of conscientiousness and find out how thoughts are generated. Comparing the speed of action potentials to thought's is like trying to figure out the speed of a nation by measuring average walking speed.
 
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atomthick said:
It depends on how you see it. They were probably talking about the fact that you can go and visit Andromeda galaxy with your mind (of course you just imagine being there) in a flash as oposed to the time taken by the light to get there.
Of course it's more poetry than science but for lots of people this is food for thought.

No, based on what I've seen on the program and the GROSS factual misstatements they make, I'd say they probably meant it literally.
 
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I'll be sure to steer well clear of this program if I ever come across it.
 
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You could miss out on some interesting stuff if you always avoid anything a bit whacky. If you are 'secure' in what you know then it cannot harm you.
Is there no worth in fantasy fiction, for instance?
 
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sophiecentaur said:
You could miss out on some interesting stuff if you always avoid anything a bit whacky. If you are 'secure' in what you know then it cannot harm you.
Is there no worth in fantasy fiction, for instance?

The biggest danger is what programs like this do for my blood pressure.
 
  • #17
Ha, yeah that's true. Maybe this "through the wormhole" could be useful in providing a few laughs about how terribly they can get it wrong.
 

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