Tightening Your Budget in a Tight Economy

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The discussion revolves around the impact of rising prices on personal budgets, particularly focusing on grocery and gas costs. Participants share their experiences and strategies for managing expenses in a tight economy, including cooking from scratch and shopping habits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that they are more conscious of prices now compared to before, while others express that they have not changed their shopping habits significantly.
  • Several participants mention cooking from scratch and buying in bulk as strategies to cope with rising food prices.
  • Gas prices are highlighted as a significant concern, with some participants detailing how commuting costs are affecting their budgets.
  • There are discussions about the practicality of different vehicles for commuting, including the Smart Car and diesel options, with mixed opinions on their efficiency and suitability.
  • Some participants share humorous anecdotes related to grocery shopping and vehicle choices, indicating a light-hearted approach to the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of experiences regarding price increases, with no clear consensus on the overall impact or the best strategies for managing budgets. Some agree on the importance of being mindful of prices, while others maintain their previous habits.

Contextual Notes

Participants' comments reflect individual circumstances, such as income levels and family size, which may influence their perspectives on budgeting and spending. The discussion includes references to specific products and shopping strategies that may not apply universally.

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Individuals interested in personal finance, budgeting strategies, and the impact of economic changes on daily living may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
We have had the smart cars in Canada for about 5 years now. I see more and more of them on the roads every month. They do seem to be alright in the snow as well, as i see them all over in the winter. I looked at a display of one cut apart a few years ago at the auto show, and they are no doubt one of the strongest designed cars ever built for road use. I have some pics somewhere i can link if anyone is interested. There is a youtube video of a smart car crashed into a jersey barrier at 60 mph. The passenger compartment was not impacted at all. Quite the little car.
 
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  • #32
cristo said:
Think gas is expensive in the US? Try living in Europe!

The difference is that you in Europe are already adjusted to expensive fuel with nice subways and small cars. In the US many people have huge gas guzzlers with no available public transportation.
 
  • #33
What always makes me wonder is that we are all buying cars that are much stronger then we need. I have a car with 1.6L 100 HP engine; in my earlier experience 50 HP will be absolutely enough. That means substantially more mpg, this is simply energy conservation. Smarts are small, light, and sold (at least in Poland) with engines up to 98 HP. In a way it is an internal contradiction of the small, fuel effective car idea.

Problem is not in cars and their fuel efficiency, problem is in our heads.
 
  • #34
Borek said:
What always makes me wonder is that we are all buying cars that are much stronger then we need. I have a car with 1.6L 100 HP engine; in my earlier experience 50 HP will be absolutely enough. That means substantially more mpg, this is simply energy conservation. Smarts are small, light, and sold (at least in Poland) with engines up to 98 HP. In a way it is an internal contradiction of the small, fuel effective car idea.

Problem is not in cars and their fuel efficiency, problem is in our heads.

I am a petrol head, i love going fast, but it is time to come down to Earth, i would happily drive an electric car, (just so long as i can keep my bikes for the occasional thrill), but they aint available at a reasonable price, manufacturers are going to scam us on what is basically a dressed up go cart.
 
  • #35
Borek said:
What always makes me wonder is that we are all buying cars that are much stronger then we need. I have a car with 1.6L 100 HP engine; in my earlier experience 50 HP will be absolutely enough. That means substantially more mpg, this is simply energy conservation. Smarts are small, light, and sold (at least in Poland) with engines up to 98 HP. In a way it is an internal contradiction of the small, fuel effective car idea.

Problem is not in cars and their fuel efficiency, problem is in our heads.

Your 50 HP small cars also went with 700-800kg total weights. Nowadays that's 1000-1200kg, Now, remember Newton, force, mass and accelleration. Most of the additional weight is in safety features, a huge difference in survival chance nowadays. And whenever I climb that 20% slope, I know perfectly well why I need those 110HP.
 

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