Time a spring takes to slow a mass

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The problem involves a mass attached to a spring, where the mass is in motion and the goal is to determine how far it travels before coming to a stop and the time it takes to do so. The context includes parameters such as mass, spring constant, and initial velocity, indicating a focus on dynamics and energy conservation principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation equations to find the distance traveled by the mass and struggles with the time calculation, considering power and integration. Some participants suggest using simple harmonic motion (SHO) formulations to find the period and relate it to the time taken to stop.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some providing hints about using the period of a mass-spring system. There is acknowledgment of corrections regarding the time taken to stop, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus on the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding the correct fraction of the period to use for the time taken to stop, highlighting a potential misunderstanding of the dynamics involved in the mass-spring system.

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Homework Statement


A mass M is attached to a spring with spring constant K. At the equilibrium point of the spring, the mass has a velocity of V.
M = 8.07 kg
K = 113 N/m
V_o = 0.638 m/s

How far does the mass travel until it stops? How long (in seconds) does it take for the mass to travel from the equilibrium point until it stops?

Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{1}{2}MV_o^2 = \frac{1}{2}Kx^2[/tex] - equation 1

[tex]F(x) = kx[/tex] - spring force

[tex]V(x) = \sqrt{V_o^2 - \frac{Kx^2}{m}}[/tex] - from energy.

The Attempt at a Solution


Using equation 1, I can solve part 1 easily. I plug in M,K,V to equation 1and solve for x, which gives me [tex]x = 0.1705m[/tex]

I have no idea how to solve part 2. I've tried using power, but that doesn't go anywhere meaningful.
[tex]P(x) = F(x)*V(x)[/tex]

Integrating for total power gives me
[tex]\frac{MV_o^2}{2t} = \int F(x)*V(x)[/tex]

Simplifying the integral:
[tex]\frac{MV_o^2}{2t} = \int \sqrt{K^2 x^2 V_o^2 - \frac{K^3 x^4}{m}}[/tex]

I've tried solving that for t, and it doesn't give me the right answer. I haven't thought of it yet, but I feel like there should be an easier solution to this problem. Any help is appreciated.
 
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It might be easier to cast this as a SHO formulation where T can be found directly from the other variables. in other words can you convert this to the form

x(t)=A sin (wt) and solve for T. hint: w=sqrt(k/m) and the time to stop is 0.5T.
 
Have you learned the formula for the period of a mass-spring system? The time it takes to go from equilibrium to rest is actually 1/4T (not 0.5T).
 
ideasrule said:
Have you learned the formula for the period of a mass-spring system? The time it takes to go from equilibrium to rest is actually 1/4T (not 0.5T).

my bad. I forgot it was a quarter cycle and not 1/2, thanks for the correction.
 

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