Time for a block to come to a stop on a horizontal surface

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The problem involves a block of mass m on a horizontal surface with viscous resistance dependent on velocity, described by the force F(v) = -cv^(1/2). The original poster seeks to determine the time it takes for the block to come to a stop from an initial velocity V0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using Newton's laws and equations of motion, questioning how to account for the velocity-dependent resistance force. There are inquiries about the need to integrate the resistance force and how to express instantaneous acceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest integrating to find expressions for acceleration, while others emphasize the need for an expression representing instantaneous acceleration rather than average acceleration. There is ongoing clarification regarding the relationship between force, velocity, and acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of a velocity-dependent force and the definitions of average versus instantaneous acceleration. The discussion reflects uncertainty about how to properly set up the equations of motion in this context.

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Homework Statement


I have a block of mass m on a horizontal surface, which is covered in oil. The tell me the viscous resistance force is a function of the velocity, F(v)=-cv1/2, where I am assuming c is a constant of some kind. I need to find the time that it will take for the block to stop. The initial velocity is V0 at x=0

Homework Equations


Equations of motion
Newton's laws

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought that I could use ΣF=ma. Then in my equations of motion solve for a=(V-V0)/t
Since the vertical forces cancel out, the equation would then be:
-cv1/2=m((V-V0)/t)
The problem is if I want the block to stop then V will be 0 and my equation doesn't work. Since the resistance is a function of V will I have to integrate it ?
 
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Cocoleia said:
Since the resistance is a function of V will I have to integrate it ?
Yes, integrate. The expression (V-V0)/t represents the average acceleration over the time t. You need an expression for the instantaneous acceleration.
 
TSny said:
Yes, integrate. The expression (V-V0)/t represents the average acceleration over the time t. You need an expression for the instantaneous acceleration.
Do I also have to integrate F(V)=-cv^1/2 as well as the acceleration?
 
Cocoleia said:
Do I also have to integrate F(V)=-cv^1/2 as well as the acceleration?
I don't follow. In your equation -cv1/2=m((V-V0)/t) you need to replace the expression (V-V0)/t by an expression representing the instantaneous acceleration.
 
Cocoleia said:
I thought that I could use ΣF=ma. Then in my equations of motion solve for a=(V-V0)/t
Since the vertical forces cancel out, the equation would then be:
-cv1/2=m((V-V0)/t)
The problem is if I want the block to stop then V will be 0 and my equation doesn't work. Since the resistance is a function of V will I have to integrate it ?

as your force is velocity dependent write correct equation of motion
mass.rate of change of velocity = force and can then proceed further to solve it.
 
TSny said:
I don't follow. In your equation -cv1/2=m((V-V0)/t) you need to replace the expression (V-V0)/t by an expression representing the instantaneous acceleration.
What I'm asking is do I get the expression for the instantaneous acceleration by integrating the (V-V0)/t with respect to t ?
 
Cocoleia said:
What I'm asking is do I get the expression for the instantaneous acceleration by integrating the (V-V0)/t with respect to t ?
No. Just use the definition of instantaneous acceleration.
 

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