Time: Questions for Curious Minds

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of time as the fourth dimension, its necessity in physics, and its relationship with motion and matter. Participants explore theoretical and conceptual questions regarding time's independent existence and its implications in the context of physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that time can be imagined as the fourth dimension, noting that it is incorporated into theories like Special and General Relativity.
  • Others argue that time differs from spatial dimensions because we cannot move freely through it and are bound to a velocity relative to others.
  • A participant suggests that the concept of time may be necessary for physics, questioning whether time can exist independently of motion or matter.
  • One participant raises the idea that a matter at rest still experiences change over time, indicating that time is relevant even without spatial movement.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of mathematical language in physics, suggesting that understanding time requires familiarity with the relevant mathematics.
  • There is a suggestion to explore existing threads on the topic, indicating that this discussion has been previously addressed without reaching a consensus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of time, its necessity in physics, and its relationship with motion and matter. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of time and dimension, as well as the unresolved nature of whether time can exist without motion or matter.

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1. Can we imagine time as the fourth dimension? If so why is this dimension different from other 3 spatial dimension in the way that we can't move forward and backward as we want, we are ever bound to have a velocity through this dimension and can't stop with respect to someone else's motion through time.

2. Is the concept of time necessary for physics? Do time have an independent existence? Can we refer to time without motion? If no Matter exist in the universe or no Matter moves relative to any other Matter, won't Time be meaning less?

That's all for now. I'll try to add questions later. If anybody finds more valid questions that would boost this discussion, they can post it. Invitation are send to all curious minds !
 
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Vibin Narayanan said:
1. Can we imagine time as the fourth dimension? If so why is this dimension different from other 3 spatial dimension in the way that we can't move forward and backward as we want, we are ever bound to have a velocity through this dimension and can't stop with respect to someone else's motion through time.

We already have time incorporated as a "4th dimension", as in Special/General Relativity.

A "dimension" in this case need not strictly be a spatial dimension. There's nothing here that says that the word "dimension" has to be tried to space. It can be a "coordinate system" or a phase space that is required to fully describe something.

2. Is the concept of time necessary for physics? Do time have an independent existence? Can we refer to time without motion? If no Matter exist in the universe or no Matter moves relative to any other Matter, won't Time be meaning less?

Do you think space is necessary and can exist without time? The constant speed of light "c" has both spatial and temporal parts. In Relativity, it is this constant that connects space and time. As a fundamental physical constant, do you think this constant will exist without time?

A matter sitting still in space (assuming in reference to some coordinate system) STILL undergoes change in time. It doesn't undergo a change in spatial coordinates, but it certainly undergoes a change in time!

There have been numerous threads on this topic already. You might want to spend time searching and browsing those threads. Also note that many of them did not meet a peaceful ending.

Zz.
 
Vibin Narayanan said:
1. Can we imagine time as the fourth dimension?
Yes. There's are well-developed methods for treating time as dimension, and nothing in modern technology would work if those methods were invalid.

Judging by your other questions, you have maybe a century or so of catching up to do before you can talk sensibly about how time is handled in modern physics. A good starting point might be Taylor and Wheeler's book "Spacetime physics"; it will also help answer your next few questions:
If so why is this dimension different from other 3 spatial dimension in the way that we can't move forward and backward as we want, we are ever bound to have a velocity through this dimension and can't stop with respect to someone else's motion through time.
However:
2. Is the concept of time necessary for physics? Do time have an independent existence? Can we refer to time without motion? If no Matter exist in the universe or no Matter moves relative to any other Matter, won't Time be meaning less?
The language of physics is math, and the concept of time is essential to that math. Until you've learned and are using the math, there's no way of taking on these questions.
 
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