Time Travel: Calculating Velocity for 10 Year Trip

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The discussion revolves around calculating velocity for a hypothetical time travel scenario involving a 10-year trip, with considerations of relativistic effects and reference frames.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the implications of velocity addition in relativistic contexts and question the appropriateness of the chosen reference frame for calculations.

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Some participants have raised concerns about the clarity of the problem statement and the assumptions regarding time measurement. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly apply the velocity addition formula based on different frames of reference.

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There is a noted ambiguity regarding the definition of "Earth years" in the context of the problem, suggesting that further clarification may be necessary for accurate calculations.

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One twin leaves earth on his 25th birthday traveling at velocity .87c. After traveling away from earth for 5 Earth-years, he abruptly turns anround and travels back to Earth at the same speed. How old will his twin brother be, whom he left on earth? How old will he be?
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So at first I thought that the time would be 10 years, and that I’d have to consider the outbound motion as v = .87c and inbound motion as v = -.87c but I’m struggling with addition of the velocities and whether or not this is even the right approach?
 
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Why not choose a suitable reference frame in which to do the calculations? That would be a good start.
 
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jselms99 said:
I’m struggling with addition of the velocities
If all of the velocities are measured from the same frame of reference, the velocity addition formula does not enter in. Velocity addition gets used when you need to add a velocity measured in one frame to a velocity that has been measured from another.

If a guy on a moving rocket fires a bullet from a rifle, you need the velocity addition formula to find the resulting velocity of the bullet.

If you just want to talk about a guy riding a rocket, you do not need the velocity addition formula.
 
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jselms99 said:
After traveling away from earth for 5 Earth-years
I presume this to mean 'for 5 years as measured in Earth's inertial frame'. If it doesn't mean that, then a more precise statement of the problem is needed.

I mean, by 'Earth years', I don't think they mean 'as opposed to Mars years', which are larger units of time, but that would be the literal interpretation of the quoted bit above.
 
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