To adblock or not to adblock that is the question

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The discussion revolves around the use of ad blockers, exploring the implications of blocking ads on websites, the effectiveness of various ad-blocking methods, and the impact on content creators' revenue. Participants share personal experiences and opinions regarding the balance between user experience and the necessity of ads for funding online content.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a strong preference for using ad blockers due to poor ad implementation and negative impacts on page loading times.
  • Others note that certain websites require disabling ad blockers to access content, leading to frustration.
  • There are discussions about the effectiveness of different ad-blocking methods, including using modified hosts files versus dedicated ad-blocking software.
  • Concerns are raised about the behavior of advertisers, such as autoplay videos and misleading ad placements, which contribute to the desire to block ads.
  • Some participants suggest whitelisting sites that provide fair advertising practices, while others argue against any form of ad exposure unless explicitly desired.
  • A controversial suggestion is made regarding the potential for automated ad clicks to generate revenue, which is met with strong opposition and concerns about ethical implications.
  • Participants discuss the fairness of advertising practices and the potential for advertisers to suffer losses from bot clicks or support clicks that do not represent genuine interest.
  • There is a proposal for increased transparency in how donations and revenue are managed by websites, which could foster greater trust and support from users.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express mixed views on the use of ad blockers, with some advocating for their use due to negative experiences with ads, while others emphasize the need for ads to support content creators. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the ethics and effectiveness of ad blocking.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations such as the dependence on specific ad-blocking methods, the variability of user experiences across different websites, and the unresolved nature of ethical considerations surrounding ad exposure and revenue generation.

  • #31
I don't believe in indiscriminate ad blocking, because it's really bad for content providers.

I do, however, block any ad that plays sound automatically or streams video. With sound, it's because there's nothing more irritating than when I'm trying to listen to music and have to hunt down the tab playing the ad that's so loud I have to take my headphones off. It's especially worrying because I use hi-fi headphones and I don't want to risk blowing them out. With video ads, it's because they slow down my connection on wifi and suck up my data on mobile.
 
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  • #32
I personally white list PF, There isn't an intrusive ad on the site.This definitely isn't the case with most sites though.
 
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  • #33
If a product is needed, people will search for it and talk about it regardless of advertising. If a product needs iterative advertisement, it's non essential, or the company has enough money already. In both cases it doesn't deserve my money or attention. Sucks for good content creators out there who rely on these ad revenues, but I simply don't care as I don't like to be forced into watching things. I pay for most decent products I use or just find worthy of funding like Khan Academy or Wikipedia, etc.. In my opinion money better spent than paying overpriced drinks to get hammered. But I digress.

I feel obligated to mention these two legendary stand up comedians taking a dump on advertising:
Bill Hicks (2.45)
George Carlin (2.32)
 
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TheBlackAdder said:
If a product is needed, people will search for it and talk about it regardless of advertising

That is still word of mouth marketing. If people did it more often PF would not need to advertise.

TheBlackAdder said:
If a product needs iterative advertisement, it's non essential

You only do essential things? Eat, breathe, sleep, repeat? :smile:
 
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  • #35
Greg Bernhardt said:
That is still word of mouth marketing. If people did it more often PF would not need to advertise.

If people were less brainwashed by tv and ads, they would make time to educate themselves and inevitably find his forum.
Word of mouth is not necessarily marketing. It's proof of a hype (marketing) or just a genuine good product.
Also, widespread access to education is rising up (MOOCS, etc.) so I see a bright future for PF.

Greg Bernhardt said:
You only do essential things? Eat, breathe, sleep, repeat? :smile:

I just don't like advertisement telling me how awesome the new acid reflux laxative liver damaging drugs are. Or how cool it is to drink responsibly. If I like a product enough, I'll pay for the ads to go away. I'm even significantly more inclined to pay for an app or website which deliberately doesn't use advertising. PF was an exception to my rule actually.
 
  • #36
While I will always use ad blockers because of ad-server sourced malware, an added benefit is the improved page load time and fewer outright hangs when there are no ads.
 
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