To converge or to diverge, thats the q

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of series, specifically examining the implications of the convergence of the series \(\sum a_n\) on the convergence of \(\sum \frac{a_n}{\sqrt{n}}\) and \(\sum \frac{|a_n|}{n}\). Participants explore various theorems and tests related to series convergence, including the comparison test and properties of monotonic sequences.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether \(\sum \frac{a_n}{\sqrt{n}}\) converges if \(\sum a_n\) converges, expressing confusion about how to approach the problem.
  • Another participant suggests that if \(\sum a_n\) converges and if \(b_n\) is a bounded monotonic sequence, then \(\sum a_n b_n\) converges, presenting this as a potential theorem to consider.
  • Some participants mention using the comparison test to establish convergence or divergence of series.
  • A participant proposes constructing a monotone decreasing sequence from the original series to apply the previously mentioned theorem, indicating a method to demonstrate divergence.
  • One participant introduces a theorem related to monotone decreasing sequences, stating that the convergence of \(\sum a_n\) is equivalent to the convergence of \(\sum 2^k a_{2^k}\), particularly when \(n\) is in the denominator.
  • Another participant provides an example involving the series \(\sum \frac{b_n}{n}\) and its relation to the convergence of \(\sum 2^k \frac{b_{2^k}}{2^k}\), suggesting it as a practice problem for others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints and approaches to the convergence questions, with no consensus reached on the implications of the convergence of \(\sum a_n\) for the other series. Multiple competing views and methods are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the application of convergence tests and the manipulation of series, indicating a need for clarity on these topics. There are also references to specific sequences and series without fully resolving their convergence properties.

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Prove or find a counterexample:
(i) If [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] converges, then [itex]\sum \frac{a_n}{\sqrt{n}}[/itex] converges.
(ii) If [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] converges, then [itex]\sum \frac{|a_n|}{n}[/itex] converges.

for (i) I really haven't much of a clue.
for (ii) I am also confused but my thinking was that I could take a series [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] that is not absolutely convergent and then since two divergent series are multplied together then they must diverge. However, I know that if I take [itex]a_n=\frac{(-1)^n}{n}[/itex]that this won't work out since [itex]\sum \frac{1}{n^2}[/itex] converges...

I would really like some help on this, and if you could i would like to be briefed on what a good strategy is for thinking about these problems, it seems like the amount of tests and manipulations that are possible are very overwhelming.
 
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This may be overkill, but... theorem:

If [tex]\sum a_n[/tex] converges and if [tex]b_1, b_2, ...[/tex] is a bounded monotonic sequence of numbers, then [tex]\sum a_n b_n[/tex] converges.
 
or the comparison test
 
Number one, using comparison test to prove that the sequence converges.

Number two, construct a monotone decreasing sequence out of the given sequence such that the new sequence is less or equal to the given sequence, then use the theorem below, to show that the constructed series diverges, thus the given sequence diverges

(this is my first post, and i don't know why my latex isn't working right, sorry. )
 
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OK this is a test,
ill try to rewrite the theorem in latex

For any given monotone decreasing sequence {a_n}, the series [tex]\sum a_n[/tex] converges
if and only if
[tex]\sum 2^k a_{2^k}, k=0,1,2,3,...[/tex] converges.

[tex]\sum 2^k a_{2^k} = a_1+2a_2+4a_4+8a_8+...[/tex]

Remark: this theorem works great when you have n (the index) in the denominator, because it cancels out with the 2^k in the front!

for example: the series [tex]\sum \frac{b_n}{n}[/tex] converges if and only if

[tex]\sum 2^k \frac{b_{2^k}}{2^k} = 1\frac{b_1}{1}+2\frac{b_2}{2}+4\frac{b_4}{4}...= b_1+b_2+b_4+b_8+...[/tex] converges.

you can try to prove [tex]\sum 1/n[/tex] diverges using this theorem as a practice to get familiar with it.
 
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