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yes they didntberkeman said:How come? Brings back too many memories? They won't let you in without an active student badge? You still have overdue books checked out?
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today i learned helping is good in general
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Today I learned about John Michell.
Have you ever heard of this scientist earlier? Probably not !
John Michell (25 December 1724 - 21 April 1793) was English natural philosopher and clergyman who provided pioneering insights in a wide range of scientific fields, including astronomy, Geology, Optics and gravitation. Considered 'one of the greatest unsung scientists of all time'. The American Physical Society (APS) has described Michell as being "so far ahead of his scientific contemporaries that his ideas languished in obscurity until they were re-invented more than a century later". The APS states that while "he was one of the most brilliant and original scientists of his time, Michell remains virtually unknown today".
Newton in 1665 discovered that everything possesses gravity, it is the force by which a body pulls everything inwards, towards itself. Michell combined the notion of gravity that it pulls everything inwards by Newton and the notion of speed of light being finite by Ole Rømer, he said that if a star has mass which is a lot, lot more than the sun then the light which it is emitting would be pulled in on itself because of gravity, he concluded that maybe the most massive objects of this universe are invisible and this formed the base of modern-day black hole theories. He is the father of seismology and father of Magnetometry. He was the first to explain how to manufacture artificial magnets. He applied statistics to study cosmos, he told double stars were a product of mutual gravity. He also invented a apparatus to measure the mass of Earth. Imagine what if this great scientist never existed, would have we known these secrets of our cosmos. He is an unsung great scientist, today his contributions in astronomy, Geology, Optics, and gravitation form the base of modern-science, yet we don't know about this famous scientists.
A grand salute to you Mr. John Michell.
Have you ever heard of this scientist earlier? Probably not !
John Michell (25 December 1724 - 21 April 1793) was English natural philosopher and clergyman who provided pioneering insights in a wide range of scientific fields, including astronomy, Geology, Optics and gravitation. Considered 'one of the greatest unsung scientists of all time'. The American Physical Society (APS) has described Michell as being "so far ahead of his scientific contemporaries that his ideas languished in obscurity until they were re-invented more than a century later". The APS states that while "he was one of the most brilliant and original scientists of his time, Michell remains virtually unknown today".
Newton in 1665 discovered that everything possesses gravity, it is the force by which a body pulls everything inwards, towards itself. Michell combined the notion of gravity that it pulls everything inwards by Newton and the notion of speed of light being finite by Ole Rømer, he said that if a star has mass which is a lot, lot more than the sun then the light which it is emitting would be pulled in on itself because of gravity, he concluded that maybe the most massive objects of this universe are invisible and this formed the base of modern-day black hole theories. He is the father of seismology and father of Magnetometry. He was the first to explain how to manufacture artificial magnets. He applied statistics to study cosmos, he told double stars were a product of mutual gravity. He also invented a apparatus to measure the mass of Earth. Imagine what if this great scientist never existed, would have we known these secrets of our cosmos. He is an unsung great scientist, today his contributions in astronomy, Geology, Optics, and gravitation form the base of modern-science, yet we don't know about this famous scientists.
A grand salute to you Mr. John Michell.
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Turns out Mr. Michell is a trickster, and the truth is much more mundane. Mr. John Michell didn't discover any of those things. All he did was invent the world's only time machine.
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Time machine?DaveC426913 said:Turns out Mr. Michell is a trickster, and the truth is much more mundane. Mr. John Michell didn't discover any of those things. All he did was invent the world's only time machine.
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A joke.Adesh said:Time machine?
He went into the future and stole all those ideas.
The irony, of course, being that inventing a time machine would be way a more impressive feat - not mundane at all.
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It was a very very complicated joke, Ah! But after all joke is a joke :)DaveC426913 said:A joke.
He went into the future and stole all those ideas.
The irony, of course, being that inventing a time machine would be way a more impressive feat - not mundane at all.
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A true trickster would never invent the time machine. They would steal it from the person who did.
Yes, just a bit later.Adesh said:Imagine what if this great scientist never existed, would have we known these secrets of our cosmos.
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Today I learned not to buy too much lahmaju
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Today I learned that there is a brand of crisps in the UK called "Hint of Salt". (Translation: UK crisps = US potato chips.) With a name like that, you'd expect its salt content to be a fraction of that of standard crisps. Well, it is a fraction, but the fraction is ##\tfrac{3}{4}##. Since when was ##\frac{3}{4}## a "hint"?
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When "full-on" is "but a dash"...DrGreg said:Since when was ##\frac{3}{4}## a "hint"?
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Today I learned two things in one post.
I can just paste an illustration into my post! For years I've always saved a file on my pc, uploaded it and inserted it. I thought I was copying text, but it was a picture of text.
I looked up how to show a vector in Latex. I'd never done it before and only wanted it now, to explain to someone that they didn't need to use vectors for their problem!
I think both will be useful in future, but both got removed from that post during editing!
I can just paste an illustration into my post! For years I've always saved a file on my pc, uploaded it and inserted it. I thought I was copying text, but it was a picture of text.
I looked up how to show a vector in Latex. I'd never done it before and only wanted it now, to explain to someone that they didn't need to use vectors for their problem!
I think both will be useful in future, but both got removed from that post during editing!
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spending the week end in bed is a good thing some time
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You have broken the rulehagopbul said:spending the week end in bed is a good thing some time
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Today I learned that Adesh broke the (self-invented?) rule, too.
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Blithely ignoring the rule while citing it, it's in post #1.mfb said:(self-invented?)
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Today I learned that moths (or rather their larvae) have eaten away the edges of our ancient lounge carpet behind and underneath our furniture. When we had our old sofas removed today in preparation for having new ones delivered tomorrow, we found there were lots of holes and bare patches in the carpet and there were lots of empty white things about the size of a grain of rice which are apparently the case in which the larva grows. Here in the UK the culprits are apparently probably clothes moths rather than carpet moths, but they are similar.
We have often moved the sofas enough to vacuum up the dust and spiders webs which tend to form behind them, without looking too carefully down the back, but I suspect that by the law of unintended consequences the removal of the webs meant that fewer moths were caught so that probably helped them to multiply! However, I couldn't find any live moths or larvae around so perhaps they have taken a long time to get that far.
We were already provisionally planning to get new carpets anyway, but we are going to speed that up provided that we can be reassured that we can either eliminate enough of the moths or find a suitable carpet that the moths don't like to eat. (We already have one artificial fibre carpet, but the colour seems to wear off in places where it gets more use, so I'm not keen on getting another one like it).
We have often moved the sofas enough to vacuum up the dust and spiders webs which tend to form behind them, without looking too carefully down the back, but I suspect that by the law of unintended consequences the removal of the webs meant that fewer moths were caught so that probably helped them to multiply! However, I couldn't find any live moths or larvae around so perhaps they have taken a long time to get that far.
We were already provisionally planning to get new carpets anyway, but we are going to speed that up provided that we can be reassured that we can either eliminate enough of the moths or find a suitable carpet that the moths don't like to eat. (We already have one artificial fibre carpet, but the colour seems to wear off in places where it gets more use, so I'm not keen on getting another one like it).
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Many many todays ago I learned that Boric Acid (H3BO3) powder is extraordinarily effective against insects... it even kills off cockroaches! It's also less harsh to us Humans than the manufactured insecticides.Jonathan Scott said:provided that we can be reassured that we can either eliminate enough of the moths
Some people here in the US have found it to work when sprinkled around before laying down carpet. Myself, I would also put a dusting on the carpet.
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External boric acid kills insects by abrading holes in their cuticle (largely chitin). The insect cuticle is water repellent and keeps the insect from drying out. Boric acid abrasions cause the insect to lose water and die.
The boric acid must be dry for this to work. Its small separate particles cause the abrasion.
We used it in fish facilties (which are a great environment for roaches) by putting it behind the drywall where the roaches often hid and nested.
The boric acid must be dry for this to work. Its small separate particles cause the abrasion.
We used it in fish facilties (which are a great environment for roaches) by putting it behind the drywall where the roaches often hid and nested.
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That's the effect of Diatomaceous Earth (although I've found it not very effective for many bugs), could be a secondary effect of Boric Acid too. The reports I've been able to find on .GOV sites state the main route is when the cockroaches groom they eat the Boric Acid, which is poisonous. I proved the 'poisonous' once when I got some on a skinned knuckle and ignored it. My whole hand swelled up... so keep it out of open sores and don't eat it! Minor inhalation while applying hasn't caused me any noticeable effects, but I don't get careless about ventilation either.BillTre said:External boric acid kills insects by abrading holes in their cuticle
Old-time fun fact(s): Boric Acid solution used to be used as an eye wash. Quite effective against some conditions. Don't know the concentration though. It's also effective in shoes as a deodorant and in gloves as a fungus killer.
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Boric acid dry powder is/was very effective against cockroaches infesting damp areas in otherwise dry desert xeriscape. Oddly, it became difficult to buy at nurseries that used to sell it by weight. Nursery management offered vague reasons implying that insecticide distributors or then-new Homeland Security (?) objected to this simple treatment.
Anecdotally, I have been told Borax dry hand soap works against roaches but is more expensive and less effective than the basic powder. Curious.
Anecdotally, I have been told Borax dry hand soap works against roaches but is more expensive and less effective than the basic powder. Curious.
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From memory hearing an informal discussion, the solution was called "isotonic" in the characterization of the concentration.Tom.G said:Old-time fun fact(s): Boric Acid solution used to be used as an eye wash. Quite effective against some conditions. Don't know the concentration though.
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That sounds vaguely familiar, which made me look it up... And to the rescue:symbolipoint said:From memory hearing an informal discussion, the solution was called "isotonic" in the characterization of the concentration.
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/membranes-and-transport/diffusion-and-osmosis/a/osmosis
In this case, meaning a solution that has the same osmotic pressure of solute as the solution within a cell does. Don't think I want to go down that rabbit hole, leave it to the chemists.
Different chemical. That stuff is Sodium Borate Decahydrate, a water softener as I recall.Klystron said:I have been told Borax dry hand soap works against roaches but is more expensive and less effective than the basic powder.
(B4Na2O7 · 10H2O)
Yeah, I remember that. It is currently available in the nationwide Home Improvement hardware stores, displayed with the other insecticides. Sold in 1-pound squeeze-bottles for a few dollars.Klystron said:it became difficult to buy at nurseries that used to sell it by weight.
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Today I read your post and realized I'd never even thought about PF icon. I've been a PF member a lot longer than you, so how slow does that make me?Tghu Verd said:Today I actually looked at the PF icon and realized it's intention! Yes, I'm that slow![]()

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... and I still don't see what you mean. Could you enlighten me?strangerep said:Today I read your post and realized I'd never even thought about PF icon. I've been a PF member a lot longer than you, so how slow does that make me?![]()
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