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This discussion revolves around the concept of daily learning, where participants share various facts and insights they have recently discovered. Key topics include the woodworking technique "oyster veneering," the mathematical fact that 23! equals 25,852,016,738,884,976,640,000, and the medical terms "hyperacusis" and "diplacusis." Participants also touch on humorous observations about life, such as the impact of television on weight and the emotional sensitivity of Barn Owls.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic mathematical concepts, specifically factorials.
  • Familiarity with woodworking techniques, particularly historical methods like oyster veneering.
  • Knowledge of medical terminology related to hearing, such as hyperacusis and diplacusis.
  • Awareness of cultural references, including the significance of historical events and figures like Muhammad Ali.
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  • Research the historical context and revival of oyster veneering in woodworking.
  • Explore advanced mathematical concepts related to factorials and their applications.
  • Investigate the medical conditions hyperacusis and diplacusis, including their causes and treatments.
  • Learn about the emotional behaviors of animals, particularly Barn Owls and their sensitivity.
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This discussion is beneficial for woodworking enthusiasts, mathematicians, medical professionals, and animal behaviorists, as well as anyone interested in the quirky facts of daily life.

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BillTre said:
TIL that the word "conglobation" describes when an animal rolls itself into a ball, like a trilobite, three-banded armadillo, pill bug, or hedgehog.
Hi Bill:

Very interesting word. However, I found several online dictionaries all giving essentially the same definition which is not quite as constrained as your definition.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/conglobationConglobation
gathered together into a spherical shape.​
Example: conglobation of gravel and sand, 1697.​

Regards,
Buzz
 
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  • #2,912
Today I learned that Kant wrote a book "Universal Natural History and Theory of the Heavens" in 1755 in which he described the building of planets which is more or less still valid today. Unbelievable.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Unbelievable.

You could say you Kant believe that.
 
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BillTre said:
You could say you Kant believe that.
Actually I do. I always thought that he only dealt with philosophy. I was surprised to hear that he has written something about astronomy, the more as he never left his hometown as far as I know. But he has studied Newton.
 
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TIL that a word I have been using since pre-teen years has a different definition than I have always thought.
The word is "propaganda". I have always though that the word meant false information spread for political or other public purposes.

TIL
This is just the most complete discussion of the word I have seen, but other online dictionaries agree that falseness is not needed for something to be propaganda. The word would also apply to advertizing to sell products, even if the ad has no false information.
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
I have always though that the word meant false information spread for political or other public purposes.
I wouldn't entirely give up on your original understanding. Even when telling the truth, it still places a heavy emphasis on selective information. Half a truth isn't very truthful.
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
TIL that a word I have been using since pre-teen years has a different definition than I have always thought.
The word is "propaganda". I have always though that the word meant false information spread for political or other public purposes.

TIL
This is just the most complete discussion of the word I have seen, but other online dictionaries agree that falseness is not needed for something to be propaganda. The word would also apply to advertizing to sell products, even if the ad has no false information.

Huh. I've never really associated 'false' information with propaganda. I just see it as very, very biased information/advertising/whatever. Just look at all the propaganda posters and ads from WW2 here in the states. They never really lied to you, they just had a very patriotic spin.
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
false information
Borg said:
I wouldn't entirely give up on your original understanding. Even when telling the truth, it still places a heavy emphasis on selective information. Half a truth isn't very truthful.
Drakkith said:
I've never really associated 'false' information with propaganda. I just see it as very, very biased information
Truth or falseness have nothing to do with it. Based on the etymology of the word, 'propaganda' means 'the spreading of a certain "philosophy" or point of view' (usually, inevitably, in a biased way - no matter whether true or false ...) [(Latin) Propagare = Spread, Propagate].
 
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Today I learned that the Sandia National Lab supercomputer ASCI Red was the first computer to exceed 1TFOPS in 1997. It occupied 2500 sq ft. and cost $55M. In 2016 Sony introduced the PlayStation 4 pro weighs about 10 lbs. with comp rate of 4.2 TFOPS and costs less than $400. In the next 20 years will we be able to put one in our pockets?
 
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Once (if) Musk's AI company develops the computer brain interface we won't even need a monitor or VR glasses. Do you remember the TV series "Caprica" with its popular VR experience. Might be a lot closer than we think.
 
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gleem said:
Once (if) Musk's AI company develops the computer brain interface we won't even need a monitor or VR glasses. Do you remember the TV series "Caprica" with its popular VR experience. Might be a lot closer than we think.
Let's see the VR [how it goes] first ...
 
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gleem said:
Once (if) Musk's AI company develops the computer brain interface we won't even need a monitor or VR glasses. Do you remember the TV series "Caprica" with its popular VR experience. Might be a lot closer than we think.
We are already at the stage that certain establishments like discos offer a chip implant for "easier" paying etc. I think before we will have a one-chip-for-all solution, we will run around with as many chips as there are brands we use. Could be fun to watch searching for and reading the right one!
 
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Having made a silly joke about the etymology of "off the wagon" as an expression for relapsing into alcoholism (or at least starting drinking again), I looked it up. TIL that the US used to have water wagons for watering unpaved roads to keep down dust. On the water wagon became slang for only drinking water, and off the (water) wagon its antonym.

And here I thought Lennie Briscoe coined the phrase.
 
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fresh_42 said:
We are already at the stage that certain establishments like discos offer a chip implant for "easier" paying etc. I think before we will have a one-chip-for-all solution, we will run around with as many chips as there are brands we use. Could be fun to watch searching for and reading the right one!
I will keep mine in my shoulder.
 
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I haven't met a single one of those who like to " tell it like it is" who is also willing to " hear it like it is". The desire for truth goes ' poof' all the sudden.
 
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WWGD said:
I haven't met a single one of those who likes to " tell it like it is" who is also willing to " hear it like it is". The desire for truth goes ' poof' all the sudden.
And you just learned that?! :woot: :oldbiggrin: ...
 
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today I learned the plural for forum is...fora
 
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nitsuj said:
today I learned the plural for forum is...fora
Thanks to you I learned something...fora change !
 
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Time to rename PF!
 
  • #2,932
nitsuj said:
today I learned the plural for forum is...fora

Yes, but what do you call a flock of moose?
 
  • #2,933
Drakkith said:
Yes, but what do you call a flock of moose?

A herd.
 
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Drakkith said:
Yes, but what do you call a flock of moose?
A campground, which makes sense, since the suffix "en" performs a transitive, and certainly the stay at a campground is of transitive nature.
http://www.flockamoosen.com/index.html
 
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BillTre said:
Time to rename PF!
Hmm. Physics Fora. Physics Fora.

It does have sort of a ring to it.
 
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nitsuj said:
today I learned the plural for forum is...fora
I was beginning to get worried that "Forums" wasn't a real word. So I checked my word processor's dictionary;
(plural fo·rums or fo·ra [fáwrə]).
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

I feel better now. :partytime:
 
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dlgoff said:
I was beginning to get worried that "Forums" wasn't a real word. So I checked my word processor's dictionary;
(plural fo·rums or fo·ra [fáwrə]).
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

I feel better now. :partytime:
Latin declination is quite rare in English, even if the nomen is Latin, in my opinion. E.g. my spell checker doesn't alert me on weird constructions like forums, indexes, statuses, post scriptums, or similar strange plurals.
 
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dlgoff said:
I was beginning to get worried that "Forums" wasn't a real word. So I checked my word processor's dictionary;
(plural fo·rums or fo·ra [fáwrə]).
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Still wouldn't bet on that.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Latin declination is quite rare in English, even if the nomen is Latin, in my opinion. E.g. my spell checker doesn't alert me on weird constructions like forums, indexes, statuses, post scriptums, or similar strange plurals.
I consider you the language expert here; even with English. Heck, I didn't learn to read English until I was in college. Reason: I had hearing issues until about the 4th grade. Phonics ... what the heck is that; they all sounded the same to me. Even now there are words that I pronounce wrong. Also being dyslexic didn't help. I think maybe one reason I liked Math and Physics was that following equations was much easier than reading since I think in pictures.
 
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Bystander said:
Still wouldn't bet on that.
"Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." was added when I copy and pasted from the dictionary. I should have deleted that line as I knew a comment would come. Damn Microsoft.
 
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