Today I Learned

  • Thread starter Thread starter Greg Bernhardt
  • Start date Start date
AI Thread Summary
Today I learned that cleaning a white hat can be done with bleach cleaner, but it’s important to rinse it before wearing it again. I also discovered that "oyster veneering," a woodworking technique from the late 1600s, is experiencing a minor revival despite its labor-intensive nature. Additionally, I learned that the factorial of 23 (23!) equals 25,852,016,738,884,976,640,000, which interestingly has 23 digits, a unique coincidence among factorials. I found out that medical specialists often spend less than 10 minutes with patients, and that watching TV can contribute to weight gain. Other insights included the fact that a kiss can transfer around 80 million microbes, and that bureaucracy can sometimes hinder employment opportunities. The discussion also touched on various trivia, such as the emotional sensitivity of barn owls and the complexities of gravitational lensing around black holes.
  • #4,951
TIL that there are ways to download topo data from particular websites, transform it into .stl files and then used it to mill cool topomaps (which I don't have the equipment to do). Similar files could be used in for 3-D printers (which I do have access to.
Nice video:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #4,952
Here is another nice Feynman video.

This one is about 15 minutes long and has the approach that Feynman was more of an ordinary guy than a super high IQ person.
Thus great achievements like his can be realistically considered to be not beyond the grasp of greater numbers of people.
 
  • #4,953
Ivan Seeking said:
So they used a dysphemism for King George instead?
TIL a "dysphemism" is a thing.
 
  • #4,954
BillTre said:
[...] Feynman was more of an ordinary guy than a super high IQ person. [...]
Near 7:43 in the video: "...he [Feynman] reportedly liked to date undergrads, hire prostitutes, and sleep with the wives of his friends"...

IOW, he could give Einstein some competition in the "icky" department... :oldruck:
 
  • #4,955
strangerep said:
Near 7:43 in the video: "...he [Feynman] reportedly liked to date undergrads, hire prostitutes, and sleep with the wives of his friends"...

IOW, he could give Einstein some competition in the "icky" department... :oldruck:
Schrodinger was also famous for his rendezvous in the Swiss Alps with very young ladies, and I believe the wife of a grad student on one occasion. Reportedly, it was known to his closest friends that he came back from these trips inspired. So maybe Quantum Mechanics came about due to the inspiration of a beautiful woman. :olduhh:
 
  • #4,956
strangerep said:
Near 7:43 in the video: "...he [Feynman] reportedly liked to date undergrads, hire prostitutes, and sleep with the wives of his friends"...

IOW, he could give Einstein some competition in the "icky" department... :oldruck:
He describes patronizing prostitutes in his autobiography.
 
  • #4,957
strangerep said:
Near 7:43 in the video: "...he [Feynman] reportedly liked to date undergrads, hire prostitutes, and sleep with the wives of his friends"...

IOW, he could give Einstein some competition in the "icky" department... :oldruck:
Einstein came up with some rules for his marriage. I remember laughing in disbelief reading them, even 100 years ago this must have been pretty outrageous.

"A. You will make sure:

1. that my clothes and laundry are kept in good order;
2. that I will receive my three meals regularly in my room;
3. that my bedroom and study are kept neat, and especially that my desk is left for my use only.

B. You will renounce all personal relations with me insofar as they are not completely necessary for social reasons. Specifically, You will forego:

1. my sitting at home with you;
2. my going out or travelling with you.

C. You will obey the following points in your relations with me:

1. you will not expect any intimacy from me, nor will you reproach me in any way;
2. you will stop talking to me if I request it;
3. you will leave my bedroom or study immediately without protest if I request it.
D. You will undertake not to belittle me in front of our children, either through words or behavior."
 
  • #4,958
Ivan Seeking said:
Schrodinger was also famous for his rendezvous in the Swiss Alps with very young ladies, and I believe the wife of a grad student on one occasion. Reportedly, it was known to his closest friends that he came back from these trips inspired. So maybe Quantum Mechanics came about due to the inspiration of a beautiful woman. :olduhh:
He also had two wives, insofar as that was possible then and there.
 
  • #4,959
pinball1970 said:
Einstein came up with some rules for his marriage. I remember laughing in disbelief reading them, even 100 years ago this must have been pretty outrageous.

"A. You will make sure:

1. that my clothes and laundry are kept in good order;
2. that I will receive my three meals regularly in my room;
3. that my bedroom and study are kept neat, and especially that my desk is left for my use only.

B. You will renounce all personal relations with me insofar as they are not completely necessary for social reasons. Specifically, You will forego:

1. my sitting at home with you;
2. my going out or travelling with you.

C. You will obey the following points in your relations with me:

1. you will not expect any intimacy from me, nor will you reproach me in any way;
2. you will stop talking to me if I request it;
3. you will leave my bedroom or study immediately without protest if I request it.
His first or second marriage? I suppose it was his second. By that time he had escaped into a world of mathematical physics. His second wife just a servant with job security.

In his youth he was more normal. He was an excellent violinist, good enough to turn pro, in a day when that was an important social skill. He enjoyed good relations with his first wife after the divorce.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes pinball1970
  • #4,960
There was a free love movement in the late 19th century, the leading exponent of which was Victoria Woodhull. She was a "household word," someone everyone knew of. Victoria has been, ah, de-emphasized in history.
 
  • #4,961
Ivan Seeking said:
Schrodinger was also famous for his rendezvous in the Swiss Alps with very young ladies, and I believe the wife of a grad student on one occasion. Reportedly, it was known to his closest friends that he came back from these trips inspired. So maybe Quantum Mechanics came about due to the inspiration of a beautiful woman. :olduhh:
Weird what inspires people, Heisenberg went off for a walk with bad hay fever and came back with the uncertainty principle and Feynman looked at some plates to get fired up to solve QED!
 
  • #4,962
pinball1970 said:
Weird what inspires people, Heisenberg went off for a walk with bad hay fever and came back with the uncertainty principle and Feynman looked at some plates to get fired up to solve QED!
Kary Mullis took LSD, came up with the polymerase chain reaction [inspired by a road sign], and received a Nobel Prize. But later he thought a glowing green raccoon would talk to him and was channeling an alien, so maybe not such a good idea.
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Likes Borg and pinball1970
  • #4,963
  • Wow
Likes pinball1970
  • #4,964
I was a graduate student in the same department with Ralph Abraham. He gave a presentation in which he said psychedelics helped him discover chaos theory.

Dave Davies, guitarist of The Kinks, believed he was in psychic communication with extraterrestrials and that this improved his guitar playing.
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
  • Like
Likes Ivan Seeking and pinball1970
  • #4,965
  • Haha
Likes Ivan Seeking and pinball1970
  • #4,966
Hornbein said:
Dave Davies, guitarist of The Kinks, believed he was in psychic communication with extraterrestrials and that this improved his guitar playing.
No way! Never once have I seen an alien give a good guitar performance.

Must be the Akashic field. :olduhh:
 
Last edited:
  • #4,967
Sun Ra stated quite specifically that he was from Saturn. I have no intention of contradicting him.
 
  • #4,968
diogenesNY said:
Sun Ra stated quite specifically that he was from Saturn. I have no intention of contradicting him.
Laurdine "Pat" Patrick played with Sun Ra for forty years. His son Deval was elected governor of Massachusetts and is a big shot at Bain Capital.
 
  • #4,969
From Wikipedia

A Golden Arm is a craps player who rolls the dice for longer than one hour without losing. The first Golden Arm was Oahu native Stanley Fujitake, who rolled 118 times without sevening out in 3 hours and 6 minutes at the California Hotel and Casino on May 28, 1989.[28]

The current record for length of a "hand" (successive rounds won by the same shooter) is 154 rolls including 25 passes by Patricia DeMauro of New Jersey, lasting 4 hours and 18 minutes,[29] at the Borgata in Atlantic City, New Jersey, on May 23–24, 2009. She bested by over an hour the record held for almost 20 years – that of Fujitake.
 
  • Wow
Likes russ_watters
  • #4,970
TIL where I parked my Tesla Roadster

1675955658331.png

https://where-is-tesla-roadster.space/live
 
  • #4,971
Today I learned, that the definition of the speed of light is 299,792,458 meter per second.
Not that speed of light that I learned.
But that the definitions was settled in 1983. What the hell??
Why didn't they set the speed of light is 300,000,000.000000 meter per second exactly, and let the circumference of the earth (I mean the lateral line) to be 40 thousands km plus some meters.
Anyway the lateral line can change in some region right.
 
  • #4,972
OmCheeto said:
I see only one apostrophe, and my French is almost as bad as my Klingon, but I would guess that it was not his fault. Wiki seems to have fixed the error:

"Il ne leur a fallu qu’un moment pour faire tomber cette tête, et cent années peut-être ne suffiront pas pour en reproduire une semblable."
("It took them only an instant to cut off this head, and one hundred years might not suffice to reproduce its like.")

ps. Lavoisier named Oxygen.

pps. The wiki entry on his last days: Final days and execution
sounds very much like, um, right now.

ppps. Was that here, FB, or in a dream, where I theorized that the French were nice to us back then, because they knew we'd be here one day?

Never mind. It was on my sister's FB page, regarding her disgust of the images that U.S. kids were tweeting of their icky looking lunches. And then she commented on how healthy French children ate. And then, it happened...OmCheeto: I hope that you are aware, that France has the highest tax burden in the world. hmmm... I wonder if this is why the French, from our very beginning, as a country, sided with us. They went through what we are going through now, 200 years ago. Don't we have a castle in the north of France?
Yes, Lavoisier, sadly.
La République n'a pas besoin de savants ni de chimistes.
 
  • #4,973
KingGambit said:
Yes, Lavoisier, sadly.
La République n'a pas besoin de savants ni de chimistes.
@PeterDonis answered this in another thread from memory.
 
  • #4,974
KingGambit said:
Why didn't they set the speed of light is 300,000,000.000000 meter per second exactly, and let the circumference of the earth (I mean the lateral line) to be 40 thousands km plus some meters.
Because that would have changed the definition of the meter by about 0.3mm, enough to matter. Inch/metric conversions are already a minefield - imagine if there were two meters that you had to convert between the two...
 
  • Like
Likes jbriggs444 and pinball1970
  • #4,975
BillTre said:
Here is another nice Feynman video.

This one is about 15 minutes long and has the approach that Feynman was more of an ordinary guy than a super high IQ person.
Thus great achievements like his can be realistically considered to be not beyond the grasp of greater numbers of people.

Yeah, everytime I see Richard Feynman, I can't shake off @PeterDonis signature.
Nature can't be fooled.
Challenger investigation?
 
  • Like
Likes pinball1970 and BillTre
  • #4,976
Ibix said:
Because that would have changed the definition of the meter by about 0.3mm, enough to matter. Inch/metric conversions are already a minefield - imagine if there were two meters that you had to convert between the two...
Ahh, the imperial system. Haven't thought of that.
Well, metric was introduced right after Lavoisier lost his head I think.
 
  • #4,977
KingGambit said:
Nature can't be fooled.
Challenger investigation?
Yes, that's what the Feynman quote in my signature is from: the closing sentence of "Appendix F" that Feynman wrote as a supplement to the investigation report. The full sentence is: "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
 
  • Like
Likes Astronuc, dlgoff, pinball1970 and 2 others
  • #4,978
Ibix said:
Because that would have changed the definition of the meter by about 0.3mm, enough to matter. Inch/metric conversions are already a minefield - imagine if there were two meters that you had to convert between the two...
The OP should note, also changing every measured value of anything that includes LENGTH in its units. Not a good idea.

The whole point of SI is to avoid "old meters" and "new meters."
 
  • #4,979
PeterDonis said:
Yes, that's what the Feynman quote in my signature is from: the closing sentence of "Appendix F" that Feynman wrote as a supplement to the investigation report. The full sentence is: "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
Yes, Challenger disaster was very sadly and also traumatic.
It's been watch by relatives, all the Christa's students and exploded.
Not like Columbia. Which Leroy (the Flight Director) realized something was wrong between 15 minutes of comm black out.
And everytime I watch Youtube footage about space shuttle launch and hear "Endeavour (or Atlantis, Discovery) go for throttle up". It sometimes send chill at my spine.

I'm not superstitious, but every shuttle begins with C, Challenger and Columbia, experienced catasthrope.
 
  • #4,980
KingGambit said:
Yes, Challenger disaster was very sadly and also traumatic.
It's been watch by relatives, all the Christa's students and exploded.
Not like Columbia. Which Leroy (the Flight Director) realized something was wrong between 15 minutes of comm black out.
And everytime I watch Youtube footage about space shuttle launch and hear "Endeavour (or Atlantis, Discovery) go for throttle up". It sometimes send chill at my spine.

I'm not superstitious, but every shuttle begins with C, Challenger and Columbia, experienced catasthrope.
Add: And the first to carry a civilian.
 
  • #4,981
KingGambit said:
Yes, Lavoisier, sadly.
La République n'a pas besoin de savants ni de chimistes.

Lavoisier in my opinion did the most of any man to provoke the French revolution. He was the head tax collector for Paris. He had a wall built that encircled Paris, essentially transforming it into a prison. Those entering had to submit to inspection for the purpose of tax collection.

As if that weren't bad enough such systems inevitably become corrupt. Criminals bribe their way through and ordinary people pick up the tab.
 
  • #4,982
Today I learned that this past year half a million people went missing in the United States. Twenty years ago it was a million.
In Japan there are companies that help people to do this.
 
  • Informative
  • Like
Likes jack action, Ivan Seeking and pinball1970
  • #4,983
KingGambit said:
I'm not superstitious, but every shuttle begins with C, Challenger and Columbia, experienced catasthrope.
33% of them had a name beginning with C. ;)
 
  • #4,984
Ivan Seeking said:
33% of them had a name beginning with C. ;)
Or 40% of the ones that got launched using rockets and flew orbital missions.
 
  • Like
Likes Ivan Seeking
  • #4,985
PeterDonis said:
Or 40% of the ones that got launched using rockets and flew orbital missions.
Ah yes! Enterprise was only used for testing. It never launched.
 
  • #4,987
TIL about the toroidal propeller.
 
  • Like
Likes Ivan Seeking
  • #4,988
Today (yesterday, actually) I learned that YouTube (or Google?) is more scarier than it looks.

Just when I'm searching on Google to see what is Appendix F in Challenger disaster report. Then later when I opened my phone, not the computer, Youtube suggested this:


Just how the h*ll that they (Youtube/Google) know that I would like that video.

And yesterday I also learned in that video that in Challenger disaster commission, there was a lengthy and heated argument (or controversy if you will) concerning Appendix F, and Feynman threatened to back off.
Sadly, he died two years later. Well, I like that SOB. He was a bad boy scientist with girls and everything.
And yeah, Challenger disaster report was much better than Warren commision.
 
  • Informative
Likes OmCheeto and pinball1970
  • #4,989
KingGambit said:
Just how the h*ll that they (Youtube/Google) know that I would like that video.
Everything goes into a central data base. I would mention unusual things on very obscure web sites that would subsequently show up in Youtube recommendations. I get the impression that these little web sites make their money by selling the data to the Central Scrutinizer.
 
  • #4,990
Hornbein said:
TIL about the toroidal propeller.

WOW!!!
 
  • #4,991
TIL that Gibbs is married to Mindy (well, their actors are married, anyway), which is one of the stranger crossovers I could have imagined.
 
  • Like
  • Wow
Likes BillTre and jack action
  • #4,992
Today I learned, that Picasso, after watched the cave paintings said "In 15 thousands years, we have invented nothing"
Lascaux_painting.jpg


Can't help but remember Aristotle claim.
Aristotle: Earth is the center of the universe
Early Astronomy: Milky way center is the center of the universe.
Hubble (law): Earth (or even you) is the center of the universe.

So what is this. In 2000 years, we learned nothing? :smile:
 
  • #4,993
TIL Footage from the 1960s of the Belgian physicist George Lemaitre has been found. Anton has made a video on this but he uses some terminology that is off so I won't post the link. He also gets a quote from Einstein a wrong too. He posts some great stuff but will leave that one.
Last week Sabine posted another inflammatory video on particle physics. She is a bit of a marmite character so I will leave that one for members to seek out if they want to!
 
  • #4,994
pinball1970 said:
TIL Footage from the 1960s of the Belgian physicist George Lemaitre has been found. Anton has made a video on this but he uses some terminology that is off so I won't post the link. He also gets a quote from Einstein a wrong too. He posts some great stuff but will leave that one.
Last week Sabine posted another inflammatory video on particle physics. She is a bit of a marmite character so I will leave that one for members to seek out if they want to!

An English language translation of the Lemaitre interview is here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2301.07198.pdf
 
  • Informative
Likes pinball1970
  • #4,995
TIL what a "marmite character " is. Thx, @pinball1970

I don't think we have marmite in the US.
 
  • Like
Likes pinball1970
  • #4,996
gmax137 said:
I don't think we have marmite in the US.
You don't know what you're missing.
 
  • Like
Likes pinball1970
  • #4,997
Ibix said:
You don't know what you're missing.
I found a place nearby that claims to have it. How is it normally used? On toast? Any advice appreciated!
 
  • Like
Likes Astronuc and pinball1970
  • #4,998
KingGambit said:
I'm not superstitious, but every shuttle begins with C, Challenger and Columbia, experienced catasthrope.
Atlantis, Challenger, Columbia, Discovery, Endeavour flew.

Here are some alternatives:
"Every orbiter ending with r ended in a disaster (Challenger, Endeavour)"
"Every orbiter with 9 letters was destroyed (Discovery, Endeavour)"
"Every orbiter with 8 letters ended in a disaster (Atlantis, Columbia)"
"Every orbiter beginning with a vowel was destroyed (Atlantis, Endeavour)" (any word starting with a vowel? annihilated sounds awkward)
"Every orbiter with an even number got destroyed (Atlantis, Columbia)"
"Every orbiter introduced in an even year got destroyed (Discovery, Endeavour)"
"Every orbiter with a square number as first mission number got destroyed (Columbia, Endeavour)"
"Every orbiter with a multiple of 3 as first mission number got destroyed (Atlantis, Challenger)"

I'm sure with a bit more searching we find a pattern for all 10 combinations.
 
  • #4,999
gmax137 said:
I found a place nearby that claims to have it. How is it normally used? On toast? Any advice appreciated!
Yes, it's a spread. Butter is optional. You can also dissolve it in hot water and drink it, but I don't particularly like that.

Do note that there is a very good reason why the stuff is a byword for "highly divisive". It's a unique flavour, kind of sharp (somehow) and very salty, and people really do either love it or insist that it's inedible.
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
  • Like
Likes pinball1970 and gmax137
  • #5,000
gmax137 said:
I found a place nearby that claims to have it. How is it normally used? On toast? Any advice appreciated!
On toast... As an exfoliant... As axle grease...
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Likes pinball1970 and Bystander
Back
Top