Top Picks for Math and Physics Textbooks to Enhance Trading Skills

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for math and physics textbooks that could enhance trading skills, particularly in the context of derivatives and options trading. Participants explore various textbooks, their content, and how they might fit into a self-directed learning plan in physics and mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in starting with "Conceptual Physics" by Hewitt, questioning its mathematical rigor and whether it should be supplemented with a more mathematically focused book.
  • Another participant argues that "Conceptual Physics" is a great book, countering the claim that it is pointless due to its lack of math.
  • Concerns are raised about "Physics" by Halliday and Resnik, with one participant stating it does not effectively explain concepts or math.
  • There is a discussion about the Feynman lectures, with some participants suggesting they may not be suitable for beginners and recommending a progression through easier texts first.
  • One participant suggests that reading multiple books can be more efficient than focusing on a single text, as it allows for cross-referencing and deeper understanding.
  • A later reply indicates a desire to plan a comprehensive list of physics books to study after mastering the foundational math, including advanced topics like quantum mechanics and general relativity.
  • Another participant advises focusing on the current texts before planning future studies, emphasizing the importance of mastering foundational material first.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the value and appropriateness of specific textbooks, particularly regarding "Conceptual Physics," "Physics" by Halliday and Resnik, and the Feynman lectures. There is no consensus on the best order of study or the necessity of reading multiple texts simultaneously.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the potential overlap in content among textbooks and express concern about redundancy in learning. There are also varying opinions on the difficulty levels of the recommended texts, which may depend on individual progress through foundational materials.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in enhancing their trading skills through a deeper understanding of math and physics, as well as those looking for structured self-study plans in these subjects.

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Hi. I am currently working through some math textbooks (calculus, linear algebra, differential equations) over the course of the next 2 years. I work at a hedge fund now trading derivatives, and although the type of trading I do does not use mathematical modeling, I want to be able to enhance my production by trading options using these maths. However, I also want to learn physics when I am done with this because it is interesting to me and I know several traders who use principles of physics in their trading.

Anyway I need a suggestion for best textbook to start with. I have constantly heard three recommendations:

1) Conceptual Physics by Hewitt. From what I hear it is good for concepts but severly lacking in math, which is pointless. So, is it worth reading this book just because it helps conceptually? Or would an intro book with more math also help with the fundamentals conceptually? Like, should I read this book plus a beginner book with math? I don't want to have to read two 700 page books that both say the same thing.

2) Physics by Halliday and Resnik. Does it do a good job explaining the concepts, on top of the math? Or should I also read the hewitt book?

3) 3 volume Feynman lectures. I heard these are like the best books ever for physics. However, some say they are not for physics beginners. Should I read the Halliday book first, plus some other basic physics books, before reading Feynman lecture?

I have no problem spending a few years teaching myself various branches of physics for fun and to add to my trading. But I do not like to waste time, and don't want to read the same concepts in 10 different books if I don't have to.
 
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CuriousBanker said:
1) Conceptual Physics by Hewitt. From what I hear it is good for concepts but severly lacking in math, which is pointless.
Not pointless. Great book.

CuriousBanker said:
2) Physics by Halliday and Resnik. Does it do a good job explaining the concepts, on top of the math?
No, it doesn't do a good job on either math or concepts.

CuriousBanker said:
3) 3 volume Feynman lectures. I heard these are like the best books ever for physics. However, some say they are not for physics beginners. Should I read the Halliday book first, plus some other basic physics books, before reading Feynman lecture?
They're hard. I would not read them as your first book.

CuriousBanker said:
But I do not like to waste time, and don't want to read the same concepts in 10 different books if I don't have to.
You've got it backwards. Reading more books takes less time than reading one book. When you read more books, you can start with an easy one and work up. Also, if you don't understand something in book A, you can look at book B.

Read Hewitt. You'll have questions as you read it, so post them on PF. Once we get to the end of that process you can worry about what book to read next.
 
Great, thanks for the suggestions.

I did not mean to say that I don't like to read different books in the sense that I want to jump ahead before I know what I am doing. I just didn't know if some of the books were the same things as one another, and reading them both would not be any different than just reading one.

So, I should not get the halliday book then? What would come after Hewitt? I had the following 3 books on my list for after that. I know I am jumping way, way ahead, and I will take my time with each book even if it takes me forever, but I wanted to plan it out, so I looked at a college curriculum and googled the best textbook on each subject, and came up with the following list of how to teach myself (after I teach myself all the maths, of course)

Conceptual physics by Hewitt

Electricity and Magentism by Purcell

Introduction to mathematical physics by Vaughn

Introduction to modern physics by walecka

Classical electromagnetism by franklin

Introduction to Thermodynamics and Kinetic Theory of Matter by burshtein

Introduction to modern optics by fowles

Elementary Solid State Physics by omar

Feynman lectures, vol 1-3

The physical universe by shu

A textbook of fluid mechanics by bansal

Principles of quantum mechanics by Shankar

Introduction to Elementary Particles by Griffiths

Quarks and leptons, an introductory course in modern particle physics by halzen

Spin in Particle Physics by Elliot leader

Physics of sound by berg

A first course in general relativity by schutz

String theory volume one by pochinski

String theory volume two by pochinski

An Introduction to Modern AstrophysicsAll of that, with some chemistry mixed in, but my girlfriend is a chemist and she can help me along the way.

Not sure if I have the order right at all. I know I am crazy for planning that far ahead
 
The level of difficulty for the next books depends on how you do with the first ones. I suggest that you work through the math and physics texts that you have now and worry about next steps later.
 
So just read Hewitt and see where I'm at? Sounds reasonable.
 

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