Torque and angular accelerationfinding coeff. of friction

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The problem involves a grindstone, modeled as a solid disk, that comes to rest after a force is applied. The task is to find the coefficient of friction between the ax and the grindstone, given specific parameters such as diameter, mass, rotation speed, and normal force.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law and equations for angular acceleration to find the coefficient of friction. Some participants question the moment of inertia used in the calculations, suggesting it may be incorrect for a solid disk.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the moment of inertia on the calculations. One participant has acknowledged a potential mistake in their approach, while another offers encouragement and emphasizes the complexity of the topic.

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There is a noted discrepancy between the original poster's calculated coefficient of friction and the answer provided in the textbook, prompting further examination of the assumptions made in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



The problem states: grindstone in shape of solid disk with diameter .52m and mass 52 kg rotates at 850 rev/min. You press an ax against the rim with normal force 160 N and grindstone comes to rest in 7.5 s. Find coefficient of friction between ax and grindstone.


Homework Equations



The sum of all torques t = I*alpha (angular accel). = alpha*mass*radius^2
avg.angular.accel = (change in angular velocity)/(change in time)
850 rpm = 89 rad/s


The Attempt at a Solution



Using Newton's second law I get the sum of external forces = m*a(tangential) = m*r*alpha = (mu)_k*n
(mu)_k = (mass*radius*alpha)/n = 0.964

The answer in the book is half of the answer I got, 0.482. Where did I miss this? Thanks so much =)
 
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Easy, it seems like your moment of inertia is wrong. If I'm not mistaken you're currently using I=MR^2. Which is the moment of inertia for a thin hoop, not a disk.

A disk has the moment of inertia I= (MR^2)/2... half of what you're using =)
 
Thanks, that was a silly mistake.
I feel completely stupid asking this now but i returned to the question and I don't see how I was using moment of inertia to answer my question.
It just seems that what I did was solve for ang.accel by taking the change in ang.vel. over change in time to get 11.87 rad/s. Then I equated the sum of ext.forces = f(k) = ma(tangential) = m*r*ang.accel.
since f(k) = mu_k*n... so mu_k = (m*r*ang.accel)/n .
Thank you so much, I'm just having a massive mental block.
 
Don't worry about it, angular momentum can be a hard concept but I recommend working hard at it. It will come a lot in physics from now on =)
 

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