Total Angular Momentum of Circularly Polarised Light

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the total angular momentum of circularly polarized electromagnetic (EM) waves and their interaction with a ground state hydrogen atom. Participants explore the implications of angular momentum conservation in this context, particularly focusing on the roles of orbital and spin angular momentum in the transitions of atomic electrons.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the final state of the atomic electron transition will be at m= ±1 depending on the orientation of polarization (left circularly polarized or right circularly polarized light).
  • Another participant clarifies that photons have a spin of 1, allowing for m_s values of ±1, which contrasts with the spin of electrons.
  • A participant notes that the m=+1 or -1 refers to the L_z component of the orbital angular momentum of the electron.
  • One participant suggests that while the S component of the photon's total angular momentum J has a specific value, it is the total J that must be conserved, not the individual components S or L.
  • Another participant adds that photons are massless and therefore do not have a zero value for m.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the components of angular momentum and the conservation laws involved, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interactions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of angular momentum components and the assumptions about conservation laws in the context of photon interactions with atomic systems.

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I am considering the occurrence of an incident circularly polarised EM wave on a ground state hydrogen atom. The result is that the final state of the atomic electron transition will be at m= ±1 depending on the orientation of polarisation (LCP or RCP).

I understand that this is due to the conservation of angular momentum. The EM wave carries total angular momentum J of ± hbar. J also equals L+S (orbital angular momentum & spin angular monetum respectively). However the angular momentum of circularly polarised light comes solely from the spin angular momentum, which would imply that L=0 and S= ± hbar.

My problem is tho, is that S=m_s hbar and I understood that m_s could only equal ± 1/2. So how in the instance of my light, can S be an integer value of hbar?

Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks :)
 
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Unlike electrons, photons have spin 1, so m_s = +-1.
 
The m=+1 or -1 is for L_z of the orbital angular momentum of the electron.
 
Thank you. That makes sense now :)

I'm thinking that although it is the S component of the photon's J that has a value, because of spin-orbit interaction, it is only J that needs to be conserved and not the individual components S or L. Which is why it can be the electron's L that carries the conservation.
 
one more thing,photons are massless then don't have a zero value for m.
 

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