Total Derivatives and Linear Mappings .... D&K Example 2.2.5

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The discussion centers on the interpretation of Example 2.2.5 from "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by Duistermaat and Kolk, specifically regarding the total derivatives and linear mappings. Participants explore the implications of the equations presented in the example and seek clarification on the absence of a remainder term in the context of derivatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • Peter questions why the remainder term, denoted as ##\epsilon_a(h)##, is zero in the context of the example provided by Duistermaat and Kolk.
  • One participant suggests that defining ##DA(a)(h) := A(h)## leads to a linear mapping that satisfies the conditions of a derivative, implying that the remainder is zero by definition.
  • Another participant notes that since ##DA(a)=A## for all ##a \in \mathbb{R}^n##, the equations can be manipulated to show the relationship between the mappings and the remainder term.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the remainder term and its implications for the derivative, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion references specific definitions and lemmas from the text, which may influence the understanding of the derivative and the remainder term. The implications of these definitions are not fully explored or agreed upon by all participants.

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I am reading "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by J. J. Duistermaat and J. A. C. Kolk ...

I am focused on Chapter 2: Differentiation ... ...

I need help with an aspect of Example 2.2.5 ... ...

Duistermaat and Kolk's Example 2.2.5 read as follows:
D&K - 1 -  Example 2.2.5  ... ... PART 1 ... ... png.png

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In the above text by D&K we read the following:

" ... ... Indeed ##A(a+h) - A(a) = A(h)##, for every ##h \in \mathbb{R}^n##; and there is no remainder term. ... ... "Now I can see that

##A(a + h) = A(a) + A(h)## ... ... (1) from the definition of ##A## ...

and in (2.10) we have ...

##A(a +h) - A(a) = DA(a)h + \epsilon_a(h)## ... ... (2)

So ... from (1) and (2) we get

##A(h) = DA(a)h + \epsilon_a(h)##

... BUT ... why, in D&K's terms is "there no remainder term" ...

... in other words ... why is ##\epsilon_a(h) = 0## ...
Hope someone can help ...

Peter
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The above post refers to equation (2.10) which occurs in Definition 2.2.2 ... so I am providing Definition 2.2.2 and the accompanying text ... as follows:
D&K - 1 - Defn 2.2.2 ... ... PART 1 ... .png

D&K - 2 - Defn 2.2.2 ... ... PART 2 ... .png
I hope that helps readers understand the context and notation of the above post ...

Peter
 

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If we define ##DA(a)(h) := A(h)## then we get a linear mapping which satisfies the conditions of a derivative and for which the remainder is zero by definition. Now Lemma 2.2.3 says, that there is only one and thus ##DA(a)=A## is the derivative.
 
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In the quoted text we have that ##DA(a)=A\forall a\in \mathbb R^n##.
hence equation (2) becomes
$$A(a+h)=
A(a)+
DA(a)(h)+\epsilon_a(h)
=A(a)+A(h)+\epsilon_a(h)$$
Subtracting (1) from this gives the desired result.
 
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Thanks fresh_42, Andrew ...

... appreciate your help ...

Peter
 

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