Total energy of mass spring system?

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The total energy of a mass-spring system can be calculated using the formula E = (1/2)kx^2 + (1/2)mv^2, where k is the spring constant, x is the displacement, m is the mass, and v is the velocity. In this discussion, the mass is 0.7 kg, and the amplitude A is 0.45 m with an angular frequency w of 8.4 rad/s. The total energy can be computed at specific instances, such as maximum displacement or maximum speed, yielding equivalent results. Additionally, gravitational potential energy must be considered if the mass oscillates vertically.

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Homework Statement



We have an object whose mass is 0.7 kg moves with an equation y=0.45cos8.4t.
Find the general energy

w=8.4 A=0.45

Homework Equations



E=mv^2/2 +kA^2/2

The Attempt at a Solution



So I found k using w=(k/m)^0.5. And then I found V0 using V0=A*(k/m)^0.5
and then i found x using F=kx
Then I found V=V0*(1-x^2/A^2)^0.5
And then I used E=kA^2/2+mv^2/2

IS THIS RIGHT?
 
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When the object is at 0 displacement and max speed v0, all of its energy is kinetic. Therefore, you can find the total energy of the system by just computing the kinetic energy (1/2)mv0^2 at this instant.

Alternatively, a quarter of a period later, when the object is at max displacement A and 0 speed, all of the kinetic energy that it had has been converted into elastic potential energy in the spring. Therefore, at this instant, you can compute the total energy of the system simply by computing the elastic potential energy (1/2)kA^2

Both of these expressions will give you the same answer for the total energy of the system, so you would use one, or the other, but not both.

The expression for the total system energy at an arbitrary time t is just the sum of the kinetic and potential energy of the mass:

E = (1/2)kx^2 + (1/2)mv^2

Where "x" is the position at time t, and "v" is the speed at time t. However, it is easiest to pick a time t where one of these two energy terms is zero, like I did in the two cases above. The first case was for x=0, v=v0. The second case was for x=A, v=0. Do you understand now?

One more thing. I notice that you used "y" instead of "x" to denote the position of the mass. This suggests to me that the mass is oscillating vertically. If that's true, then you need to consider *gravitational* potential energy as well.
 
Thank you so much.Now I understand it all :)
So I guess that now I only have to use w=(k/m)^0.5 and F=kx to find x :)
 
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Elaia06 said:
Thank you so much.Now I understand it all :)
So I guess that now I only have to use w=(k/m)^0.5 and F=kx to find x :)

No, you don't need to find "x" (or "y" in this case). Like I clearly explained above, once you know k and A, you can get the total energy of the system.


OR, once you know m and v0, you can get the total energy of the system.
 

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