Total Time Travelled for 400m by Bus

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The problem involves a bus that starts from rest, accelerates to a certain velocity, travels at that velocity, and then decelerates to a stop, covering a total distance of 400 meters. The subject area includes kinematics, specifically motion with uniform acceleration and deceleration.

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  • Participants discuss breaking the problem into sections to analyze the bus's motion during acceleration, constant speed, and deceleration. There are attempts to calculate the time taken to reach maximum speed and the distances covered during each phase. Some participants question the calculations and suggest verifying the time and distance equations used.

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There is a mix of calculations and confirmations among participants, with some expressing agreement on the computed total time while others note discrepancies with textbook answers. Guidance is offered on alternative methods for calculating distances and times, but no consensus is reached on the final outcome.

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Participants mention the potential rounding of answers in textbooks and the importance of checking calculations for accuracy. There is also a focus on ensuring that all phases of motion are accounted for in the total distance and time calculations.

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Homework Statement


a bus starts from rest and accelerating at 1.5m per second squared until it reaches a velocity of 9m/s.The bus continues at this velocity and then decelerates at -2m per second squared until it comes to a stop. 400m from its starting point. How much time did the bus take to cover the 400 m?


Homework Equations



s =vt, v=u+at, s= ut+ 1/2 * at^2, v^2= u^2 + 2as

The Attempt at a Solution



intially found out the time traveled until it reaches 9m/s. so starting from rest, u=0, substituting in 2nd eq. I got t= 9sec. After this I am totally confused. I found out the initial distance travelled, and final diatance traveled . I know somewhere I am doing wrong. Please help me solving this problem.
 
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it appears this problem could be split into different sections, try to find out what you can about the bus in each of these sections, then see where that takes you
 
also do you have the answers so we can see what we are aiming for?
i would also check the time you got for substituting u=0 and a=1.5, i didnt get t=9.
 
The time taken to reach 9m/s with a= 1.5m/s^2 is v=u+at => 9= 0+1.5t => t ( initial)= 6sec.
the initial distance traveled to reach from 0 to 9m/s with a =1.5 and t =6 is s= ut+i/2 at^2

=> the distance s(initial)= 0+1/2 * 1.5 * 6*6 = 27.

The time taken to stop from u= 9m/s with a = -2m/s^2, v =0 is v= u+at => t (final)= 4.5sec.

The final distance traveled when the bus was decelerating before stop with v=0,
u=9m/s, a -2m/s^2 is v^2 = u^2 +2as => s( final)= 20.25m

So the distance traveled with 9m/s continuously= total distance- s(initial)-s(final)
=> 400-27-20.25= 352.75m


the time taken to travel 352.75 m with the velocity 9m/s is t= s/v = 352.75/9= 39.19 sec

so the total time = t (initial)+ t ( final) + t = 6+4.5+39.19 = 49.69 sec

But in the textbook the answer was given as 50 sec.

Please let me know where I have done wrong
 
yeah i got the same asnwer!
well the textbook has obviously rounded the answer to the nearest second that's all!
well done =]
 
Thank you RoryP
 
Looks like you already solved this, good job. Using different words to do the same thing:

|---1----->|---2--------->|---3------->|

So you found t1 = 6
And you found that t3 = 4.5

Instead of d = vt + .5at^2 to find d1 and d3, you can also use average velocity. Vave= (v + v')/2 .

So Vave1 = 4.5 m/s , Vave2 = 9 m/s , and Vave 3 is 4.5 m/s .

d = (Vave1)(time1) + Vave2(time2) + Vave3(time3)

You can solve for time2 and add it with t1 and t3 from above to get 49.69 s.
 

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