Trace of Eq.(A.4) - Can Anyone Help?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of Eq.(A.5) from Eq.(A.4) in a paper related to astrophysics. Participants are examining the trace of Eq.(A.4) and its implications, particularly focusing on the coefficients involved and the mathematical steps required to transition between these equations.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about deriving Eq.(A.5) from Eq.(A.4), specifically questioning why the trace results in ##4\alpha## instead of ##6\alpha##.
  • Another participant provides a calculation showing that the trace of Eq.(A.4) results in ##6\alpha## and presents an equation involving ##\partial_i\partial_j## that leads to ##2 \partial^2\alpha##.
  • A participant requests further clarification on how to derive the equation involving ##\partial_i\partial_j \hat{h}^r_{ij} + 2 \partial^4 \epsilon = 2 \partial^2\alpha## from the trace equation.
  • One participant acknowledges the help received and expresses gratitude for the clarification provided.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the derivation process, as there are differing interpretations of the equations involved and the steps required to arrive at Eq.(A.5).

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The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the manipulation of the equations, particularly the meaning and application of the term "\partial^{-2}".

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Is there anyone can give me a hand?

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0210603

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When I read this paper I can not get Eq.(A.5) from (A.4). Why it is ##4\alpha##? If we take the trace of Eq.(A.4), why not it give us ##6\alpha##?

Eq. (A.3):
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[Edited by a mentor to fix a small problem in the Latex formatting]
 
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The trace of (A.4) is

$$\delta\hat{h}^r_{ii} + 2 \partial^2 \epsilon = 6 \alpha,$$

while ##\partial_i\partial_j## gives

$$ \partial_i\partial_j \hat{h}^r_{ij} + 2 \partial^4 \epsilon = 2 \partial^2\alpha.$$

Multiplying the 2nd by ##\partial^{-2}## and subtracting gives the first line of (A.5).
 
fzero said:
The trace of (A.4) is

$$\delta\hat{h}^r_{ii} + 2 \partial^2 \epsilon = 6 \alpha,$$

while ##\partial_i\partial_j## gives

$$ \partial_i\partial_j \hat{h}^r_{ij} + 2 \partial^4 \epsilon = 2 \partial^2\alpha.$$

Multiplying the 2nd by ##\partial^{-2}## and subtracting gives the first line of (A.5).

Thank you fzero! Could you please give me some detail? How to get
$$ \partial_i\partial_j \hat{h}^r_{ij} + 2 \partial^4 \epsilon = 2 \partial^2\alpha.$$
from
$$\delta\hat{h}^r_{ii} + 2 \partial^2 \epsilon = 6 \alpha,$$
And how to get the frist line of (A.5). Actually, I do not understand the "\partial^{-2}". Thank you again.
 
Oh, I see. Thank you very much, fzero.
 

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