Transcendental Calc: Learn the Basics

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral \(\int \frac{1}{e^x + 1} dx\). Participants explore different methods of integration, including substitutions and transformations, while sharing their approaches and reasoning. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a substitution \(u = e^x + 1\) leading to \(\int \frac{1}{u^2 - u} du\) and discusses completing the square for the integral.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative method by multiplying the numerator and denominator by \(e^{-x}\) and letting \(u = e^{-x}\), which simplifies the integral differently.
  • A later reply questions the necessity of the substitution made by the previous participant, noting that the integrand resembles the form \(f'/f\), which integrates to \(\log |f|\).
  • Some participants express appreciation for the clarity provided by the responses, indicating that the explanations helped in understanding the problem better.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best method to evaluate the integral, and there is no consensus on a single approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which method is superior or more efficient.

Contextual Notes

Some methods rely on knowledge of standard integrals and completing the square, which may not be universally familiar to all participants. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with these techniques.

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I appreciate any help for these 2 problems.

EDIT: First problem is solved!
 
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To evaluate
[tex]\int \frac{1}{e^x + 1} dx[/tex]
First make the substitution [tex]u=e^x +1[/tex] and work through to obtain
[tex]\int \frac{1}{u^2 -u} du[/tex]

Next http://faculty.ed.umuc.edu/~swalsh/Math%20Articles/GeomCS.html on the bottom line to obtain.

[tex]\int \frac{1}{(u-\frac{1}{2})^2 -\frac{1}{4}} du[/tex]

Now let [tex]y=u-\frac{1}{2}[/tex] to obtain
[tex]\int \frac{1}{y^2 -(\frac{1}{2})^2} dy[/tex]
This is a known integral, you should have it in your log tables and eventually with practice will become somewhat familiar with it. This integral is

[tex]\int \frac{1}{y^2 -a^2} dy=\frac{1}{2a}\log\left(\frac{y-a}{y+a}\right)[/tex]
So here a=1/2 and the integral is

[tex]\log\left(\frac{y-\frac{1}{2}}{y+\frac{1}{2}}\right)[/tex]
Putting back u
[tex]\log\left(\frac{u-1}{u}\right)[/tex]
Finally put back x
[tex]\log\left(\frac{e^x}{e^x +1}\right)[/tex]
Which you can check is the right answer. You should check the differenciation to get a feel for how the derivative works here.

The key to this question was knowing how to complete the square for the inverse polynomial part and of course being willing to make a second substitution.
 
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An easier way would have been to multiply the numerator and denominator by e^(-x) and let u = e^(-x)
 
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ObsessiveMathsFreak said:
To evaluate
[tex]\int \frac{1}{e^x + 1} dx[/tex]
First make the substitution [tex]u=e^x +1[/tex] and work through to obtain
[tex]\int \frac{1}{u^2 -u} du[/tex]

Next http://faculty.ed.umuc.edu/~swalsh/Math%20Articles/GeomCS.html on the bottom line to obtain.

[tex]\int \frac{1}{(u-\frac{1}{2})^2 -\frac{1}{4}} du[/tex]

Now let [tex]y=u-\frac{1}{2}[/tex] to obtain
[tex]\int \frac{1}{y^2 -(\frac{1}{2})^2} dy[/tex]
This is a known integral, you should have it in your log tables and eventually with practice will become somewhat familiar with it. This integral is

[tex]\int \frac{1}{y^2 -a^2} dy=\frac{1}{2a}\log\left(\frac{y-a}{y+a}\right)[/tex]
So here a=1/2 and the integral is

[tex]\log\left(\frac{y-\frac{1}{2}}{y+\frac{1}{2}}\right)[/tex]
Putting back u
[tex]\log\left(\frac{u-1}{u}\right)[/tex]
Finally put back x
[tex]\log\left(\frac{e^x}{e^x +1}\right)[/tex]
Which you can check is the right answer. You should check the differenciation to get a feel for how the derivative works here.

The key to this question was knowing how to complete the square for the inverse polynomial part and of course being willing to make a second substitution.

An impressive response that cleared everything up. Thank you so much!
 
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[tex]\int \frac{e^{-x}}{1 + e^{-x}} dx = -\int \frac{-e^{-x}}{1 + e^{-x}} dx[/tex]

[itex]u= e^{-x}, du = -e^{-x} dx[/itex]

[tex]- \int \frac{1}{1+u} du = -\log_e (1+u) = -\log_e ( 1+e^{-x})[/tex]
 
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Why make that subsitution at all, GIb. Before you set e=e^-x, the integrand is of the form f'/f, so it integrates to log |f|.
 
Either way, quicker than the 2 substitutions, completing the square and requiring a table of standard integrals.
 

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